So anyone who decides not to renew their pass due to the style of rugby is, by inference, stupid?

Why did your dad not renew?

If only I'd known that

What's 'difficult to understand' is why you think they need a stronger message sent when they get told about it all the time.


I've made no secret of the fact that I didn't want Agar appointed in the first place and that I thought his contract extension was premature at the very least. However, I don't expect the club to make decisions and take actions based purely on a knee-jerk response to complaints from fans. That way lies madness and ruin.

The BOD, for whatever reason, have decided to give Agar a chance. I disagree with them, but I'm not so arrogant as to assume that I necessarily know better or to expect them to tear up any plans they may have without giving them a chance to succeed. Unlike many on here I don't share the opinion that the BOD will be happy to see the club drift along without challenging for honours and at least making finals. Agar will live or die by our results - which is as it should be.

Posturing and demanding changes under threat of taking your ball home is not, IMO, mature or logical behavior.


Self-inflicted?

Good grief - could you be any more responsibility averse? You want to claim kudos if a drop in pass sales forces a change but avoid any culpability for the inevitable adverse consequences? Talk about having your cake and eating it.



And if pass sales are not a significant and important income stream, just how do you think that a drop in numbers will 'send a strong message'? You can't have it both ways.

Your last point is essentially opening up our income to the effects of random chance. Hardly good business planning.


I really don't care what phrases others may have used.

I find the idea ridiculous because it IS ridiculous. The downsides are too serious to be messing about with, it looks immature and petulant, and the 'logic' behind it is faulty in any case.

A false correlation if ever I saw one.

I agree with a lot of what you say, which makes it all the worse that they don't seem to be able to get things right on the field. I don't buy into the "10 minutes from 4th place" rubbish. Fact is the season is 26 games long and we finished where we deserved to based on results (you could argue we were lucky in a few games to get the points also).

People are "negative" because season after season they've spent their hard earned believing this will finally be "the year".

My personal opinion is that the club hierarchy believe they have a secure income irrespective of on field performance (within reason) so focus more on maintaining that rather than really getting to grips with what goes on on the pitch

Your myopia knows no bounds though.

Opposite problem in fact. Permanently welded to my reading specs nowadays.

Your mother did warn you

I do agree with you there. The only issue i have is that i think people are a bit crazy if they expected last year to be 'our year'. Many people on here, (i think you also) and myself included, wanted to finish in the playoffs. We hoped for more but i was just happy to see a marked improvement.

I genuinely think the performances will come good but maybe failure is in the back of the players minds and slowly we will get that confidence back. i was at the KC last night and alot of the players and coaching staff made alot of sense. So much attention to detail goes in that you don't realise how difficult it is to win games and how much work goes in. Lasty, Agar and Webbo have so much to do and spoke so 'in depth' about their roles it's hard to appreciate the jobs they do!!

Fact is last season was an improvement on the season before


Fact is we are not good enough to win super league


Fact is the sooner the people spending their hard earned realise this the better

That's [ishort[/i sight.

Allegedly.

If the BOD know the fans aren't happy yet do nothing then what would you suggest that fans do?