Buying a ticket doesn't necessarily win you the prize. There is also the rarely made argument that Agar isn't useless and has done a reasonable job pulling you through a (possibly unplanned) transitional period - even reaching a final along the way.

The Tony Smith at Wire argument is a compelling one, but I think Agar did enough this year (16 SL victories) to buy a bit of breathing space.

I really do not get your point Standee?

The only significant increase of 'cost' would be the coach.

If that coach can bring greater on field success, then (most probably) the gate (and the sale of merchandise) would go up. Keeping an unsuccessful coach, could well see the gate (and the sale of merchandise) go down.

My point is that the current board are quite happy as they are, unless we all stop turning up they will never invest more than they can get away with.

The financial success at the club is like a house of cards, built on a large group of layal fans. Sustained mediocrity would soon jeopardise the financial model. The small amounts of profit we make would soon disappear if crowds and/or merchandise sales dropped even a relatively small amount

Ooh, look, Sulky McSulk's arrived. Yikes, Mild Rover, 3 registered users and 2 guests online on the Rovers board. Looks like you're missing the "X Factor" over there
Is he in his big leather boots?

We all know that as a club we need a top class coach but don't think D.Anderson would come as he went back for his kids sake .

We need a coach who can get the players backing and to learn them the basics how to back up,run lines,tackle and try the unexpected .

A coach with more than one game plan, does not have favorites and has a game plan that both first team and under 20's play to, so that when you promote a player they don't look like a fish out of water for first 4/5 games.

Maybe it's not the money???
I think a TOP Australian coach or even an ordinary/unknown one with a strong personality would be unlikley to accept the way things are run at FC. Hence if we were able to get a "reforming" coach then everything would be open for change and that coach would be be given/take control of the direction of the club. I think that's what our current controllers are afraid of. Agar is very much associated with the playing side and from what I've seen doesn't get involved in much else. People like Maguire , Smith , Anderson and even Morgan are seen to be much more than the guy that coaches the players, they are the club and influence everything it does. Imagine someone like Gus Gould here? I don't think our board can!

for "our board" read Kath and Jim Lad, they want to control the train set, it's as simple as that.

About 15 years at current run rate.

Doesn't stop them taking salaries though

No, but consider that we are spending the full cap and pay hundreds of thousands to the SMC. In the context of most other clubs losing money, some, like Wigan, a lot of money on bigger crowds, the basic maths would suggest they're not taking much if we're returning a profit every year.

2 3rds through the season i was all set to get my first season ticket ( not done so before for parenting issues !! ) but after another dismal end to the season and Agar still producing cack rugby,i won`t be bothering while he is still at the helm !

Have to say I agree with you on this one.
It's almost as if the board have climbed 26,000 feet up the South face of Everest. Looked around at the view and decided what's the point of climbing the last 3,000 feet to the summit. We can see all we need to from here (if you get my rather obscure analogy).

As you have pointed out, from a business perspective, I think the board genuinely do not believe the appointment of a top class coach who delivers on the field would bring them any significant returns off the pitch. Certainly not enough to justify the investment.

There is also the probability that the board believe we already have a top class coach in place. I know this is news to some of us on here, but I honestly believe that the board are of this opinion. They are convinced that he's the man for us, hence the new 2 year deal in April. I know there are many of us on here who are truly baffled as to how they have arrived at this conclusion, but arrived at it they have.

Either way, Mr Agar is going nowhere. At least not for another 18 months (minimum). We're stuck with him and our board who clearly believe in the old adage of "it's the taking part that counts, not the winning". As Sally Cinnammon pointed out we are the new Warrington. Everything in place off the field, but with genuine on field success frustratingly out of reach.

We are destined to be the first supporters in history who get to cheer a bank balance sheet instead of a Wembley triumph. I can see it now, the players doing a lap of honour waving the club's bank books instead of the SL trophy or Challange Cup. These are truly frustrating times for the faithful. So so close and yet so so far away from the real prize on offer.