Bet Wigan are worried because if they do not win the grand final they clearly never finished 1st in your world and will have to hand back there league winners trophy

Isn't it the league leaders shield?

Put your money where your mouth it...simple way to solve this


Provide a league table

How do you actually work this out ?

If you define it as a league game we where 3 points above the dobbins or if you have some other system going here where do the Crusaders lay?

The very fact you ask that question astounds me. How can you post so frequently and express such strong opinions... Are you seriously saying you don't understand the competition we compete in?

All the league is for is get into a good position to mount a challange for the play offs.

I do understand our competition....Why do you keep avoiding the question ?


Strangely another poster favours the word love

Yes we finished 6...how do we end up 7th though. 3 points above dobbins, where do crusaders fit into all this

Because you cannot....You have resorted to personal insults because you have been owed

Even if you class the play-offs as a separate league (blank sheet so to speak), we would be 8th at this point as Crusaders scored more points yesterday..
If you class the play-offs as an extension of the league we still hold 6th as we were 3 points above the dobbins..

Wonder if this is why all the league table place us as finishing 6th and do not provide a separate league table for the play-offs

Once again a half decent thread de-railed by a couple of school kids and their petty arguements. PM each other and leave us to get on with the thread.

Getting back to the thread, I would like to think the board will sit down this week and discuss honestly how the season has gone and learn from it.
Firstly I don't want to see all the hype we had last season about what is happening and what we are going to do. Big press releases and lauches etc have left us looking stupid this season. That said I can't see us shifting as many season passes so the hype will have to be there to get cash out of wallets.

I am firmly in the Agar out camp, but feel that he has taken us a step forward from last season, but an ambitious board would imo want to be taking three or four steps forward. This season I don't buy the injuries as an excuse. Leeds, Saints, Giants have all had serious injury concerns at times yet have fought through that adversity and finished above us.
For me we have thrown all our eggs in the one basket, big forwards and two veteran half backs who we do well to get on the park. Until we get a back up half back partnership ( Not Washy and A N Other) we will never be anything more than also rans. I appreciate thats easier said than done, but we now have Webster and Long to coach half backs. As I understand it Longy was brought in to help produce a new SH. Well we are half way through his contract and no sign of a new half back anywhere at the club.
I worry about next year as we seem to be spending time re recruiting players who have taken us no where this season. They are also the same players who have failed to produce a decent 80 minute performance since probably Sts away. They are also the same players who failed to get up for the games in Wales, Scotland, West Yorkshire...... Ok a further off season together might help, but it will also help the clubs who are already way ahead of us so this off season will have to be exceptional if we are to even stand still.

I await the results but can't see the woods for the trees at this moment in time.