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| Quote: Uncle Junior "I didn't mean his job was under threat and he is apparenty very good at all aspects of his job that have nothing to do with sport. I just meant that if he told the truth about Agar then his job would become under threat so he's prepared to lie repeatedly in order to not put himself in that position.
Whether it's down to Jowly James or Kath, ateotd he's paid to be a CEO/ figurehead so whatever flack he gets he deserves....'"
But is he lying, we don't agree with his opinion, doesn't make him a liar.
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| Sorry but his constant backing of a massively underperforming coach leads me to think thats he's as clueless as Agar, hence me wanting rid of them both. When Agar falls on his own sword (sadly many many moons away i think) then i expect Toolboy to do one as well.
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| So, you expect the senior officer of the company to openly crticise one of his employee's?
Can tell some people posting on here struggle to hold down a paper round.
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| Quote: Standee "But is he lying, we don't agree with his opinion, doesn't make him a liar.'"
well personally i think he's lying, but if it suits the discussion better let's say he spouts propaganda with minimal factual basis and ignores overwhelming evidence that supports the exact opposite to what he says....
He's clearly not daft so what other conclusion can there be to
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| The club is interested in making money like any other business who can blame them? If your not happy don't buy the merchandise. If we don't buy the merchandise the club cannot afford the expensive players. Catch 22.
Agar is a good coach just needs a Manager to control the Management of the team. We have the same problem now as when Kear took over from McRae.
McRae was a Manager with Kear a fantastic coach beneath him. Thats what most teams have a decent Head Coach/Manager with a Good Coach behind them.
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| Quote: Standee "Which other clubs are turning a positive balance sheet year on year?'"
Is that down to him?
Maybe cost cutting by using cheap options
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| "As a board we appreciate that we have an enormous fan base and that it is impossible for our decisions to please all of our fans all of the time."
I like the extract from the standard letter sent out to us all, impossible to please all our fans, I guess they are right and we do have a few fans happy to see agar in the job and the team playing really crap.
To me it's seems like one step forward and two back.
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| Quote: Standee "So, you expect the senior officer of the company to openly crticise one of his employee's?
Can tell some people posting on here struggle to hold down a paper round.'"
No I don't (although it would be nice). My point (again) was simply that if he's prepared to perpetuate the bull he deserves all the flack he gets.
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| Quote: joolsc "Thats what most teams have a Manager and a coach.'"
Care to list who the "managers" are at Saints, Leeds, Warrington, Bradford...shall I go on?
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| Quote: Hutchie "Is that down to him?'"
I can guarantee that if we were [ilosing[/i money he'd get the blame for it, so the reverse only seems fair to me.
I know that some on here like to say that the board has just been lucky, but I can remember not that long ago when our commercial operations were a shambles and we were not able to generate the income that our situation made available. Whatever else he may or may not have done, Rule has overseen a transformation of that side of the business so that we now maximise income from all potential revenue streams.
The [ionly[/i area where Rule and the board have fallen short is the one most important to the fans, and that's the on-field performance. It needs sorting, but I can't see why we have to throw the baby out with the bath water to do it.
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| Quote: Kosh "throw the baby out with the bath water to do it.'"
you are John Kear and I claim my night in with The Nolans!
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "No I don't (although it would be nice). My point (again) was simply that if he's prepared to perpetuate the bull he deserves all the flack he gets.'"
There is the distinct possibility that he doesn't consider it to be bull. He could be completely genuine. I know for a fact that there are respected former players and others with good standing in the sport who insist that Agar is a good coach who will produce given time. Maybe Rule and the board are persuaded by people like these rather than complaints from the fans.
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| Quote: Standee "Care to list who the "managers" are at Saints, Leeds, Warrington, Bradford...shall I go on?'"
Sorry submitted it before I had finished. Your right most teams have a Head Coach that can manage situations. Agar is just an attacking coach but a very good one.
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| Quote: Standee "you are John Kear and I claim my night in with The Nolans!'"
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| Quote: Standee "As much as I personally dislike Rule I can't see why people are blaming him, he wont have, ultimately, made the decision about Agar, it will have been Kath's call, he is simply the front man for the club.'"
and a very good one at that ... well said!
Sometimes its easy to knee jerk and ask for this and that to be sacked, beware one day you may get what you want..
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