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Quote: Ian P "The other case is for a different crime and the two are not connected in anyway.
He has not been held on remand and I still reckon he has struck a deal with the CPS and will cop a bender. The other way would have dragged on for months if ........ the CPS had the funds to proceed. Pleading guilty gets rid of all this and the CPS will have saved oodles of dosh and get a result and at the end of the day that is the way this all works.

The prisons are full of people at the moment as well and I do mean full, would a prison sentence serve the public any good. I doubt that I really do a bloke who was fiddling his ebay account with dodgy bids to boost prices will get a £30K fine soon. I see this as no different its hardy the crime of the century, in fact its a bit petty and none too bright.

I would sooner courts stuck to putting people inside prison who need to be there, the law is there to correct, protect and punish offenders we do not live in the dark ages anymore.'"


Fair enough Ian, but £36k swindled out of people isn't small beer. And the courts don't (and shouldn't) make custody decisions on whether there's room. Is the prison ship still operating???

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Quote: Chris28 "Fair enough Ian, but £36k swindled out of people isn't small beer. And the courts don't (and shouldn't) make custody decisions on whether there's room.
Quote: Chris28 "Is the prison ship still operating???'"
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Quote: Chris28 "And the courts don't (and shouldn't) make custody decisions on whether there's room.'"


I think his point was more that the prisons are full partly because of unnecessary imprisonments, like this would be if it happened, massively wasting resources.

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What unneccessary about this racist crook going to jail?

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Quote: trys'r'us "I think his point was more that the prisons are full partly because of unnecessary imprisonments, like this would be if it happened, massively wasting resources.'"


And how much money would he have had to have defrauded the public of before you saw fit for him to go to jail? He would still be running his crooked business now if he hadn't got caught.

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I have a feeling that those knocking the club for terminating his contract will soon be eating their words. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Big Dave T "I have a feeling that those knocking the club for terminating his contract will soon be eating their words.
Can't remember if I did, but I'd eat mine with Reggae Reggae sauce if I did icon_wink.gif

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Quote: jimmyfivebellies "agar would have had some kind of excuse!!'"



Injured, out for between 12/18 months. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: El Chupacabra "What unneccessary about this racist crook going to jail?'"


Prison should be used as both an attempt to rehabilitate the offender and to protect the public. In Raynor's case (this one anyway, the one he's just pleaded guilty to) there is no threat to the public. He's sold some counterfeit goods, he's not a threat to society.

As far as rehabilitation goes, I wouldn't have thought any would be needed. He knows he's done wrong (his admission of guilt is proof of this) and the hefty fine and/or suspended sentence he'll receive, along with his conscience, will probably prevent him from doing this sort of thing again.

Quote: El Chupacabra "And how much money would he have had to have defrauded the public of before you saw fit for him to go to jail? He would still be running his crooked business now if he hadn't got caught.'"


A hell of lot more.

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Quote: trys'r'us "Prison should be used as both an attempt to rehabilitate the offender and to protect the public. In Raynor's case (this one anyway, the one he's just pleaded guilty to) there is no threat to the public. He's sold some counterfeit goods, he's not a threat to society.

As far as rehabilitation goes, I wouldn't have thought any would be needed. He knows he's done wrong (his admission of guilt is proof of this) and the hefty fine and/or suspended sentence he'll receive, along with his conscience, will probably prevent him from doing this sort of thing again.

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The same conscience that prevented him from defrauding members of the public whilst already subject to a suspended sentence for racially aggravated assault, you mean?

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give him a couple of years,and he will end up doing something else icon_beat.gif

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Quote: jimmyfivebellies "give him a couple of years,and he will end up doing something else
Only if he doesn't go to jail,otherwise if he can't go to jail for racially aggrevated and fraud, he'll probably think he can get away with almost anything.

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Quote: blakeysrobin "Injured, out for between 12/18 months.
would still name him in the squad though...... Rich Agar, King of the mind games icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Ian P "I still doubt he will get sent down.#

I bet he gets a bender and pleading guilty now looks like a deal has been struck for one
bet ur right plea bargain been done ,suspended sentance and big fine

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Quote: jimmys sidestep "would still name him in the squad though...... Rich Agar, King of the mind games
and next week he'll name kingy and thacks in the squad icon_biggrin.gif

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