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| Quote: A unknown superstar "Drop briscoe'"
Who would you replace him with? We've got no real wingers as it is, at least Briscoe has some experience of wing play.
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| Quote: scarrie "Who would you replace him with? We've got no real wingers as it is, at least Briscoe has some experience of wing play.'"
I dont think Briscoe has done a lot wrong tbf.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "I dont think Briscoe has done a lot wrong tbf.'"
Neither do I, he gets caught out a bit at times but we've leaked tries down the other side too.
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| Its a shame that Briscoe only gets the ball from dummy half and has a wall of defenders to run at! Still looks very strong in the collision and should be used further in field IMO.
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| Quote: scarrie "Neither do I, he gets caught out a bit at times but we've leaked tries down the other side too.'"
Our backs in general get little ball in attack and are exposed in defence by our pattern of playing tight and sliding last minute. Doesn't excuse mis-reads and knock on's though like Yeamo last night and dropped ball by Lyne but other than that i cant really complain about the backs.
The bigger issue was our pack getting beat by a Salford pack that didnt look able to on paper. Was all about entusiasm and we showed none. Fitz and O'Meley were poor who normally lead from the front and Dowes/Radford may as well have not been on the park.
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| Quote: knocker norton "Its a shame that Briscoe only gets the ball from dummy half and has a wall of defenders to run at! Still looks very strong in the collision and should be used further in field IMO.'"
He definately got under the skin of Holdsworth and Alker didnt he!!
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| Get him one on one with a back with space and I reckon he would have some success far more times then not.
Again just not utilising our strike players in the right areas at the right time.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Our backs in general get little ball in attack and are exposed in defence by our pattern of playing tight and sliding last minute. Doesn't excuse mis-reads and knock on's though like Yeamo last night and dropped ball by Lyne but other than that i cant really complain about the backs.
The bigger issue was our pack getting beat by a Salford pack that didnt look able to on paper. Was all about entusiasm and we showed none. Fitz and O'Meley were poor who normally lead from the front and Dowes/Radford may as well have not been on the park.'"
Quite.
As I said in another thread (there are so many, you can tell we got beat!) it seems we have a mental issue and have for a long time. We really struggle against the lower teams and just don't seem to be mentally prepared and are unwilling to just get stuck in. The impression I got last night was that we thought we could just go through the motions, chuck the ball about a bit and come away with the points.
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| Quote: knocker norton "Get him one on one with a back with space and I reckon he would have some success far more times then not.
Again just not utilising our strike players in the right areas at the right time.'"
Briscoe has real pace but he hasn't been put in the clear at all this season. He only gets chance to use his speed if he breaks the line himself or running down an opposition break.
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12839_1486909898.png [b:16wvcohs]"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - [i:16wvcohs]Peter Sterling[/i:16wvcohs][/b:16wvcohs]
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Our backs in general get little ball in attack and are exposed in defence by our pattern of playing tight and sliding last minute. Doesn't excuse mis-reads and knock on's though like Yeamo last night and dropped ball by Lyne but other than that i cant really complain about the backs.
The bigger issue was our pack getting beat by a Salford pack that didnt look able to on paper. Was all about entusiasm and we showed none. Fitz and O'Meley were poor who normally lead from the front and Dowes/Radford may as well have not been on the park.'"
Well summed up Dave. ATEOTD the players that have been carrying us up front played below par and there was no one else (Moa apart maybe) who wanted to stand up and be counted. You are right about the backs they do get little quality ball but having said that we have had many top class backs down the years who could make things happen from nothing - don't think that is the case now.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Well summed up Dave. ATEOTD the players that have been carrying us up front played below par and there was no one else (Moa apart maybe) who wanted to stand up and be counted. You are right about the backs they do get little quality ball but having said that we have had many top class backs down the years who could make things happen from nothing - don't think that is the case now.'"
If Berrigan continually fails to deliver at hooker I think he would be able to make an impact at centre. True, it would be a gross waste of his abilities as he wouldn't see much ball but he's not doing a great deal with the ball he is getting at present.
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| Quote: scarrie "Briscoe has real pace but he hasn't been put in the clear at all this season. He only gets chance to use his speed if he breaks the line himself or running down an opposition break.'"
I remember when Matty Head was scrum half a couple of years ago his philosophy was to get the ball to Willie Manu as quick as possible regardless where we were on the pitch and the outcome was devastating at times. 20 yards balls in our own 10 yard area just to get Manu the ball in space!
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| Quote: knocker norton "I remember when Matty Head was scrum half a couple of years ago his philosophy was to get the ball to Willie Manu as quick as possible regardless where we were on the pitch and the outcome was devastating at times. 20 yards balls in our own 10 yard area just to get Manu the ball in space!
Most of our strike players are grossly mis- or underused to tbh.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Well summed up Dave. ATEOTD the players that have been carrying us up front played below par and there was no one else (Moa apart maybe) who wanted to stand up and be counted. You are right about the backs they do get little quality ball but having said that we have had many top class backs down the years who could make things happen from nothing - don't think that is the case now.'"
Hally is probably the only back that we have with that ability. Obviously Agar doesnt like that kind of spontanaity.
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| Can only think of a handful of times our wingers have had a pass in space in the last 3 years.
Contrast that to wigan's wingers who had scored 20 tries between them in the forst 7 rounds of SL
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