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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "No, it is not the same thing!
The commentators may give their opinions, e.g. "Tansey has been poor" or "Whiting should have scored" but they also provide facts, e.g. "Radford has been penalised" or "Hall has knocked on". You can listen to a commentary and form an opinion, based on what you have heard. For example I know Berrigan was quiet because his name was barely mentioned on Five Live.
In your analogy it would be like a friend describing in detail what happened in Lost minute by minute. If I hadn't listened to the commentary but someone told me "Hull were rubbish" then of course I couldn't form an opinion.
By the way, Lost was bloody brilliant this week
This is fantastic, you actually are serious.
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| Quote: FC number 1 Radio listener "Really?
You might want to think that statement through a bit more.
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| Quote: pmarrow "This is fantastic, you actually are serious.'"
You're both partly right.
You can form an opinion on the generalities of a game from the commentary - although if you're listening to DDD it's a lot more difficult. For instance, forming the opinion that we gave away far too many penalties and/or didn't have enough possession doesn't require that you saw the game. What you can't form a full opinion on is the details of how well individual players performed, how good was the ref, etc. This is why I never vote on the MOM thread when I haven't seen a game for example.
And your analogy was a bit off TBH. If someone had given you a running commentary of the Lost episode you'd have been able to form an opinion of whether it sounded like a good episode or not.
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| Quote: pmarrow "
So you've never formed an opinion on [ianything[/i that you haven't witnessed with your own eyes?
Think about it.
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| I did go to the game and did not think this Hull team would get outclassed in the way they did on friday. Without seeing TV close ups of penalty decisions it did seem that a raise in the noise levels of the Wigan fans always resulted in Mr Halibert blowing his whistle. I do wonder whether we are better suited to winter conditions than open running conditions.
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| Quote: pmarrow "The one that got me was Roberts try before HT, not only was that on the back of Tansey failing to find touch but we had three players around Roberts and none reacted to the ball.
Briscoe for me is becoming a liability.'"
Sadly, I agree with this. Think the wing is wrong for him - time to develop him more in his true centre position.
This season is starting to remind me of last - we start strong then teams suss out our weakness and play on it. This time it's our lack of wingers. How can a Super League club have only one experienced winger ffs? I know we thought we were covered with Lyne and Tuffour coming through and Briscoe there but all of a sudden with Calderwood's lack of game time that theory's looking pretty damn weak.
I cannot understand why, knowing as they did about the court case etc, Hull gave Raynor the 5 shirt only to get rid of him just before the season started. Surely this should have happened ages ago if it was going to at all and the close season goal be to get an experienced replacement. Would we have shipped 48 on Friday if Raynor had been playing?
Either way, suddenly, for me, we have a new priority - get a second experienced winger signed pdq.
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| Was getting rid of Raynor a bit hasty?
Calderwood and Raynor on each wing . Yeaman at left centre . Hall , Briscoe and Whiting fighting for the right centre spot.
Tom is a talent but he needs to play centre.
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| Quote: WormInHand "I cannot understand why, knowing as they did about the court case etc, Hull gave Raynor the 5 shirt only to get rid of him just before the season started. Surely this should have happened ages ago if it was going to at all and the close season goal be to get an experienced replacement.'"
Legal advice could easily have changed. It's entirely possible that the club were advised that he'd be fine, only to be told later that the situation was now worse. I think that they stuck with him as long as they could but the combination of a less optimistic legal prognosis and his continuing injury trouble combined to change their mind.
Just an unfortunate combination of circumstances.
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| Quote: HFC Boy "Was getting rid of Raynor a bit hasty?
Calderwood and Raynor on each wing . Yeaman at left centre . Hall , Briscoe and Whiting fighting for the right centre spot.
Tom is a talent but he needs to play centre.'"
no it was the right choice.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
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| Quote: HFC Boy "Was getting rid of Raynor a bit hasty?
Calderwood and Raynor on each wing . Yeaman at left centre . Hall , Briscoe and Whiting fighting for the right centre spot.
Tom is a talent but he needs to play centre.'"
Circumstances but getting rid was right choice....my concern is the Moa re-signing...was very hasty and could have used money for another back or qouta spot
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| Quote: fc baldy "Circumstances but getting rid was right choice....my concern is the Moa re-signing...was very hasty and could have used money for another back or qouta spot'"
And then, when one of our props got injured, we'd be without cover.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "And then, when one of our props got injured, we'd be without cover.'"
Lauali can cover....got ample cover up front but no cover in wings.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Lauali can cover....got ample cover up front but no cover in wings.'"
No cover? We've only 1 recognised SL winger in the whole squad.
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| Quote: Kosh "So you've never formed an opinion on [ianything[/i that you haven't witnessed with your own eyes?
Not really.
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| Quote: Kosh "You're both partly right.
You can form an opinion on the generalities of a game from the commentary - although if you're listening to DDD it's a lot more difficult. For instance, forming the opinion that we gave away far too many penalties and/or didn't have enough possession doesn't require that you saw the game. What you can't form a full opinion on is the details of how well individual players performed, how good was the ref, etc. This is why I never vote on the MOM thread when I haven't seen a game for example.
And your analogy was a bit off TBH. If someone had given you a running commentary of the Lost episode you'd have been able to form an opinion of whether it sounded like a good episode or not.'"
Rubbish, you have no idea if the penalty a) should have been awarded b) it was a forced penalty(holding the tackler down to gain penalty) or c) it was a blatant penalty. You would be using [iother[/i peoples opinions to make your own.
Maybe my analogy wasn't the perfect example but you get the idea I was trying to get across.
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