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| As i see it so far only two of us have called for Agar's head, yet there were plenty more heaping credit of the players last week, some of which have called me a plank & a 2@ tonite, I am happy to debate the merits of Agar with anyone but lets be consistent in our debate
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| I'd called earlier in the week for us treat the build up for this game as a massive game for us but we looked lethargic. Even without the penalties were totally dominated in the forwards. I actually don't think Wigan were that good tonight but they didn't need to be. Is it agars job to make sure the players are up for it? I'd say yes. Our defence was a shambles especially out wide and Hall is definately not a winger he was caught out so often.
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| seems to be the two extremes on here. people defending agar vigorously and others attacking agar with some force. I am somewere in the middle. Expected us to lose tonight but the manner was dissapointing. Agars gameplan looked pretty decent but spilling balls and silly penalties are never helpful in carrying your gameplan through the game. If it was one man rugby I would be more concerned, but we are certainly alot better than last season.
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Just one of those nights
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "Wigan have the same squad as last year but are a completely different and better team - WHY - world class coach that we should have signed. We must make Nathan Brown an offer to jump Giants asap'"
I am sure Browny would laugh at such an offer but if not you better have a very very very big cheque book!!!
Why would Browny leave a team he got to 3rd in the league, to a Challenge Cup Final, won team of the year, coach of the year and has MOS amongst it's ranks.
If and when he does go I think it will be back to the land down under TBH.
PS: ATEOTD the season is only 6 games old and as your result proves, every team this season are capable of beating each other.
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| why would he laugh at the offer? maybe he is waiting for the chance to coach a big club?
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| Seem to remember when Hull won all the games in the 1978-1979 seaon and we had a great team - there was not one mention of Arthur Bunting being knighted? Now when a good team loses, its all the coaches fault??
I'm not convinced Richard Agar is comfortable at this level, but to call for his head when we lose to a Wigan team who have lost one of six is wrong IMO - do the other 5 teams who have lost to Wigan want their coach sacked?
Judge at the end of the season (or at least 20 games?) if we're eighth with this squad then look for another coach and good bye and thanks Richard. Think we're over reacting to be honest - it would be nice to win all the games again, but I cannot see any team doing that at this level.
Lets get back on the bike and support the team to the next win.
Come on Hull!!!
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| Quote: rugbynut "Seem to remember when Hull won all the games in the 1978-1979 seaon and we had a great team - there was not one mention of Arthur Bunting being knighted? Now when a good team loses, its all the coaches fault??
I'm not convinced Richard Agar is comfortable at this level, but to call for his head when we lose to a Wigan team who have lost one of six is wrong IMO - do the other 5 teams who have lost to Wigan want their coach sacked?
Judge at the end of the season (or at least 20 games?) if we're eighth with this squad then look for another coach and good bye and thanks Richard. Think we're over reacting to be honest - it would be nice to win all the games again, but I cannot see any team doing that at this level.
Lets get back on the bike and support the team to the next win.
Come on Hull!!!'"
I Agree mate, I don't think Agar will be at Hull next season , but calling for his head after this game is a non starter. Wigan have played 40 mins of poor rugby wedged within 6 games so far this season .
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| Weren't this team on the 'edge of greatness' a couple of weeks ago according to some of this board ?
chins up guys its still early yet and you got a hell of a better squad than last year !!
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| A quote frrom the Wigan board
"I cant believe how a coach can come in to his first role as a head coach and turn an average team into one that blows teams away by 30+ points pretty much each week. All within 6 months!
Maguire, you are a genius "
Even so I am not sure about the maniacal panic call to 'sack Agar' !!!
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| I have said it before,and I will say it again,some players and pundits rate Agar,do they know something we dont?
Also ,is it such a shock we have lost to Wigan? they look like they might be tough to beat,except for the odd blip like against the Bulls.
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| Quote: Ian P "SO it starts just like I knew it would
Sod off to Cas.
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "Weren't this team on the 'edge of greatness' a couple of weeks ago according to some of this board ?
chins up guys its still early yet and you got a hell of a better squad than last year !!'"
We have always been on the edge of greatness,trouble is ,we keep falling off it.
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| Quote: rugbynut "Seem to remember when Hull won all the games in the 1978-1979 seaon and we had a great team - there was not one mention of Arthur Bunting being knighted? Now when a good team loses, its all the coaches fault??
I'm not convinced Richard Agar is comfortable at this level, but to call for his head when we lose to a Wigan team who have lost one of six is wrong IMO - do the other 5 teams who have lost to Wigan want their coach sacked?
Judge at the end of the season (or at least 20 games?) if we're eighth with this squad then look for another coach and good bye and thanks Richard. Think we're over reacting to be honest - it would be nice to win all the games again, but I cannot see any team doing that at this level.
Lets get back on the bike and support the team to the next win.
Come on Hull!!!'"
Spot on mate.....either way for this club to go forward...Agar MUST NOT BE HERE 2011.
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| My view has always been that Agar's not got the pedigree to be head coach at an grade A club. The disappointing coaching aspect for me tonight was the attitude and motivation on show which was very poor considering that if we'd won, we could have gone top.
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