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[quote="The Independent (May 2007)":1a4c25jw]Today the east [of Hull], which contains the biggest council estate in Europe, is poor, a place of high unemployment and low expectation. The west, which has the city centre and the university, is posh and prosperous.[/quote:1a4c25jw]:5017.jpg



Quote: fc baldy "Havent always had a car.....its winter for gods sake and you expect it to be icey and slippery.

so you expect every street in Hull to be gritted or just the hallowed Hotham rd and Bricknell ave.'"


they can't grit everywhere, hotham road is a nothing street so i wouldn't expect it to be. but i don't think it's unreasonable to expect the city's main shopping streets to be cleared during the week before xmas.

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not to fussed about the paths now, but would the council please get off their @rses and empty the over flowing dog bins!!

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Quote: number 6 "not to fussed about the paths now, but would the council please get off their @rses and empty the over flowing dog bins!!'"


I know they should get off their @rses to sort out the new bin collections. We have an overflowing blue bin and an empy black and brown bin and another 5 days before it gets emptied. HCC need to change the collection and have the (now overflowing every fortnight)blue bin emptied every week and the (now empty except dog poo bags cos all the bins are overflowing icon_wink.gif )black bins emptied every fortnight.

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The older I get, the better I was Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator." cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg



Quote: Hull White Star "I know they should get off their @rses to sort out the new bin collections. We have an overflowing blue bin and an empy black and brown bin and another 5 days before it gets emptied. HCC need to change the collection and have the (now overflowing every fortnight)blue bin emptied every week and the (now empty except dog poo bags cos all the bins are overflowing
Or you could create less waste?

Just a thought like

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[b:a3vty4bg]AIRLIE BIRDS FLYIN' HIGH YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL SUN IN THE SKY YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL BREEZE DRIFTIN' ON BY YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ITS A NEW DAWN, ITS A NEW DAY.[/b:a3vty4bg] [color=#0000FF:a3vty4bg]LOCKO'S LYRICS OF THE WEEK:-[/color:a3vty4bg] [b:a3vty4bg]AND ECHOES NOBODY HEARS, IT GOES, IT GOES, IT GOES WE’RE FAITHFUL, WE ALL BEL13VE, WE ALL BEL13VE IT SO FAITHFUL, WE ALL BEL13VE, WE ALL BEL13VE IT[/b:a3vty4bg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_25029.jpg



For me it’s a question of priorities, such as a BIG screen TV in the city centre playing to drunks and people that have nothing better to do.
Or keep the roads/paths clean and clear. Mmmm let me think about this one.

Build a big stupid water feature on Spring Bank that never has anything other than urine and litter in it.
Or help the aged and lesser mobile live a normal life. Mmmmm

Promote a ‘COG’ as an emblem of the city. Or?

Spend thousands on fireworks every year. Or?

Spend thousands on Christmas lights. Or?

Let a big fat East Hull MP rip us off by claiming for household repairs etc. Or?


I think you get the gist of my ‘rant’

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Should have tried walking to school in 1962/63,the big freeze.No fancy protective clothing then,walked to school with wellies on a size too big,big marks round the top of our legs when we got there.It was either that or sannies with cardboard to cover the holes.Remember standing on monkey island and looking at the frozen up River Humber,it was like the Arctic.So much for winter rugby. icon_smile.gif

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As Hull White Star says our road is very bad still ice on it now ps white star nice xmas lights p

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Quote: Hull White Star "I know they should get off their @rses to sort out the new bin collections. We have an overflowing blue bin and an empy black and brown bin and another 5 days before it gets emptied. HCC need to change the collection and have the (now overflowing every fortnight)blue bin emptied every week and the (now empty except dog poo bags cos all the bins are overflowing
You do know you can request extra bins dont you? Now that we recycle nearly everything we have 2 blue bins. icon_wink.gif

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[b:a3vty4bg]AIRLIE BIRDS FLYIN' HIGH YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL SUN IN THE SKY YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL BREEZE DRIFTIN' ON BY YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ITS A NEW DAWN, ITS A NEW DAY.[/b:a3vty4bg] [color=#0000FF:a3vty4bg]LOCKO'S LYRICS OF THE WEEK:-[/color:a3vty4bg] [b:a3vty4bg]AND ECHOES NOBODY HEARS, IT GOES, IT GOES, IT GOES WE’RE FAITHFUL, WE ALL BEL13VE, WE ALL BEL13VE IT SO FAITHFUL, WE ALL BEL13VE, WE ALL BEL13VE IT[/b:a3vty4bg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_25029.jpg



Quote: cod'ead "Road salt comes from Cheshire mines and is untreated mineral salt. The problem with salt is that it doesn't last unless it is stored correctly i.e. undercover, that's what those hulking great barns are that you see close to motorways. Unless it's stored undercover rainwater will leach it away into watersystems with the consequent pollution problems. A crust also forms (marle) that is virtually impenetrable, the big problem if kept in the open is, the salt only lasts for about one season before it becomes useless.
The salt is here and being used. It's just too late to have any real effect.*

I remember christmas 1969 or 1970, when it started snowing on christmas night, by boxing night, the paths were knee deep in the stuff. Diesel taxis stopped working because their fuel froze, buses stopped running, the city was at a virtual standstill and do you know what? Nobody moaned about it, probably because many could still remember the winters of 1963 and 1947. Even the winter of 1979 didn't provoke as much moaning as now and all were far worse than anything currently experienced.

The problem we have today is a generation who expect everything to be available, instantly, all year round.
I'm not "todays generation" I'm probably as old as you, god forbid.

The furore over airports and the Channel Tunnel closed because of snow & ice, just before christmas was laughable, again due to everyone expecting that the weather should just "go away" because they wanted to go on holiday.

Council vehicles are now operated at a close to 100% utilisation because they are audited and financially penalised if found to be inefficient. It costs £100s to keep a gritter, of course the councils could specify demountable bodies, so that they could be swapped and used for other duties but they'd then fall foul of accusations of wasting money. Most gritter trucks are 4x4 or 6x4 and some even 6x6 (I know because I have supplied many of them to numerous councils all over the UK), to use these on duties other than gritting would be viewed as overkill and the inefficiency argument again comes into play.
See above.^^*
Seems like councils and public utilities cannot win
Looking at most shopping trolleys on christmas eve, it's a wonder anyone would NEED to venture out until Lent.
I'm not talking about shopping, I'm talking about people being able to go out of their own homes. This city is promoting health and fitness, is it not? So how many people have had/chosen to stay in and stuff their faces instead of being encouraged to go for a walk? My car has not moved since Christmas Eve, because I choose to walk.'"


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Quote: cod'ead "Or you could create less waste?

Just a thought like'"


Most of it is packaging which is for recycling. My hubby received new shirts for work, have you seen the packaging just one shirt comes with, thats not me creating waste, thats manufacturers overkill.

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The older I get, the better I was Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator." cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg



Quote: Hull White Star "Most of it is packaging which is for recycling. My hubby received new shirts for work, have you seen the packaging just one shirt comes with, thats not me creating waste, thats manufacturers overkill.'"


So do what I do - dump it back on the supplier.

I've come seriously close to being banned from my local Morrisons, just for stripping packaging off at the checkout. When the lady on the till called the manager, he asked what I was doing. When I asked him why Morrisons felt the need to shrik-wrap a swede, he backed right off.

A shirt comes with a bit of cardboard to stiffen it, a couple of clips or pins and possibly a celophane bag - how many shirts diod he get FFS?

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Quote: cod'ead "So do what I do - dump it back on the supplier.

I've come seriously close to being banned from my local Morrisons, just for stripping packaging off at the checkout. When the lady on the till called the manager, he asked what I was doing. When I asked him why Morrisons felt the need to shrik-wrap a swede, he backed right off.

A shirt comes with a bit of cardboard to stiffen it, a couple of clips or pins and possibly a celophane bag - how many shirts diod he get FFS?
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5, thats 5 bits of cardboard, 5 bits of cardboard under the collar, 10 cardboard bits around the sleeves, 5 cellophone wrappers, at least 5 clips and pins in each shirt making at least 25 clips.

Thats a lot of packaging for 5 work shirts.

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Quote: Hull White Star "5, thats 5 bits of cardboard, 5 bits of cardboard under the collar, 10 cardboard bits around the sleeves, 5 cellophone wrappers, at least 5 clips and pins in each shirt making at least 25 clips.

Thats a lot of packaging for 5 work shirts.'"


That would, in total, struggle to fill an average jacket pocket

If that's what's tipped your wheelie bin over the edge, you're looking in the wrong place

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Quote: cod'ead "That would, in total, struggle to fill an average jacket pocket

If that's what's tipped your wheelie bin over the edge, you're looking in the wrong place'"


Not being emptied for 2 weeks especially over the Christmas holidays has tipped it over the edge.

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Surely you don't expect the HCC to come all the way to Nebraska just to empty your wheelie bin - think of us poor council tax payers lol!!!! grannyfan cindy, at least able to toddle along to work still, in spite of the winter.

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