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Quote: Standee "Yes, because they could have signed.............oh.............hang on?

I was critical when first announced, the more I think about it the more I think the club did very well in getting him, still the best English 7 in the game, and there are hardly many other alternatives.

He isn't so much here for his on field performances, but also his off field tutelage of younger players.

I am critical of FC most of the time, but I do think, on reflection, they got this one right. (someone get PaulM a paper bag, he'll be hyper-ventilating!)

Rule and his cronies have made many cock ups, getting Long isn't one of them (although it might have been different had he broken his cheek before we signed him, but how were we to know)'"
well said. Some people are never happy, usually you i might add! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Big Dave T "well said. Some people are never happy, usually you i might add!
Did you manage to get your hands on a video recorder to have a look at Long in his prime?

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Quote: R.B.A "Did you manage to get your hands on a video recorder to have a look at Long in his prime?'"
Have you done the same to watch what you missed pre 2007? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: east hull FC fan "Have you done the same to watch what you missed pre 2007?
I didnt miss anything mate. You picked the wrong fan to throw that accusation at!

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I have never said i am not happy with the Long signing. However i would like to have seen a reasonable youngster signed alongside him to learn from him.
Hell it could even have been someone Long recommended, personally i do not know too much about our youngsters in this position but if any of them have been showing promise surely they would have been given a chance this season?

He has not had many injuries throughout his career but like anyone as they get older they become more prone to injuries and with our recent luck it is something i would rather not leave to chance.

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Quote: hullbg "We will see how it pans out. If he hasn;t been brought in for his on field performances are we just expected to sit back and watch our side produce nothing for another season?'"

SH and SO are two positions that can be filled by older, wily players. Just look at the NRL. And did you see how Saints went without him - they will miss him next year I am sure.

During his time here he will also mentor (and help scout for) young half backs. This is a great move from Hull imho and a sound investment for the future of the club.

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Quote: R.B.A "I didnt miss anything mate. You picked the wrong fan to throw that accusation at!'"
you missed live super league rugby i think was his point. icon_wink.gif other than crossing the river and giving us your money i guess.

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Quote: east hull FC fan "Have you done the same to watch what you missed pre 2007?
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I think you could interpret that a couple of ways! Both very good points.

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Quote: downtheante "SH and SO are two positions that can be filled by older, wily players. Just look at the NRL.......'"


This is true and before Long signed lots of people were getting excited about the possibility of signing Matt Orford who is about the same age as Long.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I wouldn't worry about Longy. Remember, we did offer him a one year extension. This was along the same lines as Cunningham, who is now on his third one year extension, but he didn't want that. He also turned down Wigan's interest. His form prior to his broken jaw was not good but everyone believes that is because he was unsure of his future at Saints. That is the kind of thing which will affect Long's on-field play.

He had quite a lengthy time out due to the broken jaw. The jaw itself is now fine and his sight is also fine. However, he still cannot close his eyelid. This is nerve damage which resulted from the surgery, not the injury, and he has been told by his specialist that it will rectify itself. I think it has undermined his confidence as a kicker, which is why Eastmond is kicking goals even though Longy is on the field and why it took him three attempts to slot one over on Saturday night.

There are also other factors at play since his return. For example, Potter had him playing on the opposite side of the pitch to his usual side two weeks ago and in his own words he said he didn't know whether he was 'coming or going'. Why Potter decided to do this after 13 years I have no idea but that caused problems against Catalans. Potter has also been experimenting with lineups and also with attacking plays, both of which have confused all our players, Longy among them. On top of that, of course, is the fact that when any player has had a long term injury, it takes a few matches for him to get back up to speed.

Although one or two kicks on Saturday night didn't function as they should, some others were fantastic. In fact, the best I've seen from him all season. On top of that, he was organising all night long and he also got in some wonderful half breaks. Hudds were watching for him, of course, but even so, he made some yards and did some of his halfback jinking.

I shouldn't worry about Longy. He wants to join Agar because Agar wants him to organise the guys around the park, which is what Longy does best. The only thing which could hamper him is the eyelid. If that does not fix itself during the off season then it could mean problems as he cannot play in strong sunlight because his eye dries out. Hopefully, though, it will be sorted soon, not least for Longy's sake.'"


Very good and informative post, cheers.

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On the eyelid, can he not blink either then?

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Quote: Standee "I am critical of FC most of the time'"


icon_eek.gif Really?

My, you must be very subtle with it because I don't think any of us have ever noticed icon_wink.gif

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Quote: GM1 "On the eyelid, can he not blink either then?'"

Nope. That's the problem. His eye dries out.

He can blink with one eye but not the other, on the side of his face where his jaw was broken.

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