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8903.gif [quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
[quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif |
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| Quote: denbo63 "The fact he does a little more than we see week in week out. Therefore rubbishing your version of him hitting anyone. Ask them on the receiving end, Dumbo.'"
Ah, so you can't read and/or you struggle with comprehension. That explains a lot.
Edit: a deleted post? Maybe you reread what I actually said and understood it this time.
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| Quote: trys'r'us "<snip>'"
I'll spell my thoughts out again. We need a change of structure where we attack with hopefully 2 ball playing halves who take the line on and potentially a loose forward doing the same. When Danny Maguire is fit Leeds play Burrow/Maguire and Sinfield at 13. Sinfield doesn't rate his game on how many hit-ups/tackles he has made and Burrow/Maguire certainly don't. Sinfield is a creative player with a good kicking game. At the end of the day it isn't about hit-ups and tackles and stats. We need some FOOTBALLERS who can challenge the opposition's defensive structure. Rich Whiting has demonstrated he can tackle and put in a share of work. He can pass accurately at distance off both hands and stand defenders up. Who cares whether he is 6/7/13 at the end of the day these are just numbers. The structure needs changing and he needs to be given the opportunity to play in an attacking role. IMO he would be better than Washbrook at 13 but that is just my opinion. I accept you may differ on that. What we need is a structural change and Rich Whiting should be given a chance to show what he can do in that structure. That is not opinion - our failure to score enough points for 2+ seasons is the stark reality.
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| Quote: trys'r'us "Ah, so you can't read and/or you struggle with comprehension. That explains a lot.
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No. i insulted you and didn't want to stoop to your level. I have standards, Not ideal standards...still wearing that shirt? Bet you are.
Actually I hold the record for being thrown out of English at my old school. Walked in...said 'Fookin ell not comprehension again?' and got thrown out within 5 seconds of walking in. Still got the A level I needed to be an engineer though, But don't let that stop you pre-judging me.
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8903.gif [quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
[quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif |
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| Quote: Staffs FC "I'll spell my thoughts out again. We need a change of structure where we attack with hopefully 2 ball playing halves who take the line on and potentially a loose forward doing the same. '"
I've no problem with that as I'd like the same (with a fullback offering similar).
Quote: Staffs FC "When Danny Maguire is fit Leeds play Burrow/Maguire and Sinfield at 13. Sinfield doesn't rate his game on how many hit-ups/tackles he has made and Burrow/Maguire certainly don't.'"
Sinfield does. He gets through an enormous amount of work, especially in defence. He has to, it's part of the role.
Quote: Staffs FC "Sinfield is a creative player with a good kicking game.'"
He is, but that doesn't mean he doesn't provide the hard work that the role requires as well.
Quote: Staffs FC "At the end of the day it isn't about hit-ups and tackles and stats.'"
I've no idea what any of that means, and I'm not sure you do either.
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| Quote: trys'r'us "
Insulted my intelligence? Nudge Nudge.......
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8903.gif [quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
[quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif |
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| Quote: denbo63 "Insulted my intelligence? Nudge Nudge.......'"
I questioned why you accused me of saying something that was the opposite of what I actually said. Do you have a better answer than the one I came up with?
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| I was replying mainly to his physicality ( not bad for a fookin Dumbo eh? Supercilious tw*t) as you mentioned, I really can't be d to argue with someone with such superior intellect. Just going to ask you to look at his stats for an example at the Wakey away game. Not bad for a non-physical player eh?
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| Quote: trys'r'us "I agree. The 'structural change' we need is to get Radford away from 13. I wouldn't mind giving Whiting a go at 13 whilst Washbrook's out, to see if he can up his work rate, but that means we have no-one to cover fullback. In a way, his performance tonight might work against him if he has ambitions for 13 as it could well mean that he won't get a chance before Washbrook's back. Not that Agar would leave Radford out anyway.'"
Agree entirely about Radford - I would take that a stage further and replace your '13' with 'the team'.
I would replace Thorman with Whiting and play Horne at FB if he can play next week. If not then Whiting will have to play FB which he did very well despite not being one. My first priority would always be to remove Thorman from the team. I accept that maybe Rich Whiting hasn't entirely demonstrated a LF workrate but that was the point of my original post - he now needs to be given an opportunity there or SO. Washbrook is not as clever as Whiting in my view and didn't do a great deal earlier in the season to impress however he is bigger. I would be happy if Whiting was given a chance at SO with Berrigan next week. As I say he has the attributes to be the new Crooke and next year he could play with Longy if no other SO is recruited.
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8903.gif [quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
[quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif |
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| Quote: denbo63 "I was replying mainly to his physicality ( not bad for a fookin Dumbo eh? Supercilious tw*t) as you mentioned, I really can't be d to argue with someone with such superior intellect. Just going to ask you to look at his stats for an example at the Wakey away game. Not bad for a non-physical player eh?'"
You're the only one throwing around the insults. Before this, you tried to make out that I'd claimed Whiting couldn't handle tackling bigger players. I said the exact opposite. If you're still trying to argue against something I didn't say, go right ahead. You won't have much opposition. If you're trying to argue against something I did say, can you make your argument a bit clearer so I at least have something to respond to.
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8903.gif [quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
[quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif |
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Agree entirely about Radford - I would take that a stage further and replace your '13' with 'the team'.
I would replace Thorman with Whiting and play Horne at FB if he can play next week. If not then Whiting will have to play FB which he did very well despite not being one. My first priority would always be to remove Thorman from the team. I accept that maybe Rich Whiting hasn't entirely demonstrated a LF workrate but that was the point of my original post - he now needs to be given an opportunity there or SO. Washbrook is not as clever as Whiting in my view and didn't do a great deal earlier in the season to impress however he is bigger. I would be happy if Whiting was given a chance at SO with Berrigan next week. As I say he has the attributes to be the new Crooke and next year he could play with Longy if no other SO is recruited.'"
I'd like to avoid having Horne at fullback almost as much as I'd like to avoid having Radford at 13 (or, as you say, in the team at all). Whilst Whiting would probably (almost certainly, in fact) offer more at 6 than Horne has been, I think it would be better overall for Whiting to remain at fullback and for Horne to come in alongside Berrigan.
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| It will be interesting to see what happens if Horne is out for a period of time and what happens when he returns.
I'd personally like to see him given a go at 6/13. I've said about him playing 13 all season and think it's about time he is given a chance to show what he can do in a more pivotal role.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
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| Quote: ash4hullfc "It will be interesting to see what happens if Horne is out for a period of time and what happens when he returns.
I'd personally like to see him given a go at 6/13. I've said about him playing 13 all season and think it's about time he is given a chance to show what he can do in a more pivotal role.'"
But but but but....F/B IS a pivitol role to some on here.
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| Quote: denbo63 "You talk like he uses a zimmer mate. FFS you're talking about a player that kept up with Calderwood a few games ago to score an awesome try. After Tony, yes,l safe as houses is very appealing. And if it was lost on you. exceptional returns too. But if youve made your mind up...hey ho....'"
You're an idiot.
Whiting is an awesome player, but he has the speed of a slug, a dead slug.
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If you are not part of the solution then you are more likely part of the problem...: |
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| Did Leeds kicking game turn to a crock of sh*te 2nd half or did Whiting read the game perfectly positional wise to take all those kicks on the full?
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