one swallow doesnt make a summer!! he has one ok season now he is poty and our stand out player ? imo he his playing for a contract extension and like many others do has raised his game to a level he should be aat anyway the chances he has had, prefer Houghton see ya tommy

Sorry but could not resist the offer.

Lee best player this season, having a laugh.Yes he has tackled well at times but his go foreward play has been as poor as normal.

Houghton in the mail got it right when he said that Lee starts an defends then he comes on and shows ambition and go forward, then Lee comes on to defend again.

This guy has had numerous chances to show his potential even given the nod in the CC final and he had to be taken off their due to his errors and lack of go forward.

He may have been great at the lower level but this has never come through into the top grade. I said last season he needed to go out to a lower league to learn how to push a team around and organise, but no we keep him and nothing changes

We have too many players like him currently, trying hard but no real skill or flair, we need player who takes us forward and scores / creates trys, this guy does not do this, if someone has his stats on games played tries scored and assists then tell,

This should have been his chance again with the current rubbish but no.

I think his attitude has been first class and i've seen him hand out several bollockings during our all too frequent visits behind the sticks. Radders, take note.

Sums it up for me.

Last year I thought he'd been ruined and would never bounce back. No choice but for him to go.

Thankfully I was wrong. Lee has shown immense courage and bravery to weather the tirade and emerge playing his best rugby so far and (one of the minority) with the right attitude. No one could blame him for not wanting to play for Hull this season but he's shown maturity beyond his years to stick two fingers up at the adversity and come back stronger.

He obviously loves Hull despite the fans and should stay. It would be typical of the club to stick by him when he's not performing only to gift him away now he's coming into his own. Much more to come from Tommy, I think.

and who's fault is that tommy was a great prospect as a young kid, same for hall. just maybe it's down to a $iss poor development programme and the faillure of the club to put the right people in charge to bring these kids on, we must be one of the biggest areas for amateur and youth rugby league in the country so why do other clubs seem to bring the promising youngsters on far better than us? i.m.o the club have taken tommy from a promising half back/ball player, bulked him up too much and turned him into yet another utility player!

My thoughts exactly when we signed shaun long

He has outplayed Berro this year. Would be disappointed to see him go.

As others have said Tommy made all the right noises in his youth days as a Scrum Half and even Houghton came to the clubs attention whilst playing at Half Back.

In recent years we've been void of any decent traditional Scrum Halfs yet at Hooker we've had world class for several years. Its no coincidence that these two young Half Backs became very good young Hookers.

A players development doesn't stop once they make the move up to first team but sadly at Hull it seems to.

I personally feel that with Houghton and Tommy we have what we need at Hooker and I would personally like to see Berrigan move back to Centre.

I've said the same mate as I think he'd cause havoc out wide. My only concern with that is we don't get the ball out wide enough and he may end up being wasted. If we start playing more expansive with Long in the side then it wouldn't be a bad option.

I do however expect him to stay at hooker but I don't have a problem with that either.

Would be a very poor decision to let him go but this is one area we seem to be champions at! Has shown huge resilience after all the unfair garbage thrown at him. I am always amazed by the unwarranted adultation for other Hull born players who are more experienced, make far more mistakes and lack commitment compared to Lee who is talented, is still learning and has bags of enthusiasm and energy. He maybe a bit arrogant off the field but this is a common and often needed characteristic of many sports stars and thank god he is because if he didn't believe in himself and listened to some on here he would now be a 1st Diviision player.

I dont think centre would suit Berro these days. Play him at 13 next year maybe an option to expand our game a bit and allows him to get in at dummy half when needed

Any failings Tommy Lee has as SH rests squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff in thier inability to nurture the talent he had as a youngster, the same applies to Danny Houghton, he was City/County and Country SH. Dont blame the kids, what position did Andy Last play?

alot of young talented players dont make the grade not due to the fault of the coaching staff but to there over inflated egos and listening to the groupies (ash etc ) who fill there heads full of e telling them how good they are, you see them swanning about thinking they are the dogs,when unfortunately they arent and dont reach the heights that they and the groupies think they can
as for a current youngsters who have the talent to change and win games look at Tomkins and Eastmond and not Sir Tommy poty

Terrific post. Completely agree.