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8903.gif [quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
[quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif |
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| Quote: easthullwesty "I just dont get this Horne to fullback malarky. Other than catching the ball hes pants. He offers nothing. He needs to be in the line, not joining it. '"
Exactly. I really can't see what he offers there. Apart from 'safety', obviously, which appears to be enough for most people. I'd like to think we're more ambitious than that though.
Quote: easthullwesty "I thought Motu was superb yesterday considering it was his third game since a year out. Looked dangerous everytime he got the ball.'"
Again, spot on. Fullback is perfect for him, ball in hand. He's very, very good at coming into the line as an extra pair of hands and providing a link (as he showed in the build-up to a couple of the tries and in the passage that, ultimately, lead to Brough's try), with him having very good timing with short, line-splitting passes and with him being enough of a running threat to draw defenders in. It's something that isn't really possible from any other position.
This is in contrast to Horne, who is much more of a threat with a bit of space, a few options around him and someone like Tony running off him wide to keep the defence on the back foot. Horne attacking from fullback doesn't get enough room for his strengths to be used and he doesn't have the game to come from deep, hit the line at pace and pop a little short pass. He needs space to dummy, drop his shoulder and go or look for an offload. He needs space to find a runner, like Tickle, coming back on an 'unders' line. He needs space to hit someone like Tony on a wedge or to throw a cut-out pass to the centre. As a fullback, at third receiver, getting the ball deep as a wedge runner, he doesn't get this space. Tony, however, is much more of a threat when space is tight and a bit of acceleration and power or a short pass is required.
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| Quote: easthullwesty "I just dont get this Horne to fullback malarky. Other than catching the ball hes pants. He offers nothing. He needs to be in the line, not joining it. I thought Motu was superb yesterday considering it was his third game since a year out. Looked dangerous everytime he got the ball.'"
That's a good enough reason to stick him a full back.
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| Quote: TKOAH "That's a good enough reason to stick him a full back.'"
Thats not what I meant, ball in hand when in the line, Horne is superb. Hes having a bum patch at the moment but put him next to a ball player (Cooke, Long et al) and he can cause havoc. not something he can do from fullback.
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| Quote: easthullwesty "Thats not what I meant, ball in hand when in the line, Horne is superb. Hes having a bum patch at the moment but put him next to a ball player (Cooke, Long et al) and he can cause havoc. not something he can do from fullback.'"
But we don't have a ball player this season so we need to play to our strengths (ok things we are less weak with)
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| and our strengths to me are having fullback as a first line of attack rather than a first line of defence.
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| Quote: trys'r'us "Our best player by a distance. Again.'"
In our top three but not our best player, Broughton was my motm.
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| Quote: Superbowl Scott "Indeed, and some people dont want him here next year
I think thats a bit unfair, people want to seem stay injury free for the rest of the season and show some form, we can't afford to carry him like we have been doing.
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8903.gif [quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
[quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif |
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| Quote: PAUL M "In our top three but not our best player, Broughton was my motm.'"
He was decent enough. A couple of good finishes and one particularly good kick return (along with a couple of poor errors), but he was a long way from getting through the same amount and quality of work as Tony.
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| Quote: trys'r'us "He was decent enough. A couple of good finishes and one particularly good kick return (along with a couple of poor errors), but he was a long way from getting through the same amount and quality of work as Tony.'" he also stopped a certain try, showed more passion and determination then most of our players.
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| I'd give Motu a run at 7
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Games/PDT_361.gif Never criticise a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes.........that way you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.:Games/PDT_361.gif |
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| Quote: chads "I'd give Motu a run at 7'"
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Games/PDT_361.gif Never criticise a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes.........that way you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.:Games/PDT_361.gif |
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