That is the exact reason our club will go nowhere - people happy to settle for mediocrity. To be fair it's not just the club, but Hull as a whole!!! Until this changes, we will never be anything other than a mid-table wonnabe club.

And an even worse team than we have now.

Absolutely my view. In any kind of weather does have it's limits, we're not fooking stupid. I'll support the team that gives its all (and will be there in black and white when the likes of Rule etc are gone) but until the behind the scenes team changes many people will not be happy to follow the club. It all comes down from Hetherington, zero personality in the club from top to bottom.

We have the best stadium in Super League and a fan base that other clubs would envy. The potential for Hull FC is huge, yet we settle for mediocrity while the directors sip champers in the boardroom.

Turning up for games is not settling for mediocrity. Things have to change on and off the pitch - and fast - but don't knock people for loyalty.

You mean blind loyalty?

If we were cash strapped and put on that display week in week out, there would not be an issue. But the fact that we are apparently a club going places and off the field , but showing inept performances on it, just doesn't cut it for me. I've been a ticket holder for Hull for 20+ years, but have never felt this dejected with my club. Mediocre isn't even the word, we are damned right $hit!

Loyalty generally is blind. If you have to think long and hard about whether to be loyal or not it's not really loyally is it?

People are free to choose what they want to do. What I object to is when people seem to view the fact that they will still turn up regardless out of 'loyalty' (which in my opinion is misguided) as giving them some sort of superiority.

It seems that loyalty is a two way thing that has to be earned in every walk of life but sport. For some reason a sports fan has to show unending, unwavering 'loyalty' by forking out and turning up even if they feel they may be being taken for a ride.

I've not seen any evidence of that.

And I suppose everyone turning their back on the club will make us into an irresistable force?

It's got feck all to do with settling for mediocrity, I want this club to blow everyone out of the water every game, of course I do, but it doesn't happen like that. People seem to be able to come up with plenty of faults with Hull FC but no one has any answers, lets sack the coach and get rid of the dead wood half way through a season, thats great, but who is going to replace them? People are tied down to contracts and teams don't want to let their best players leave half way through the season. You can't just wave a magic wand and make everything okay.

Realistically there is nothing fans can do to help the club. Do you honestly think that just because people don't renew their passes the board will think, "oh dear, we need to buy a team of superstars to get them back on our side?" As a fan all you can do it support the team, thats what I intend to do and thats what everyone should be doing if they want to make a difference.

You are right but in the same way I don't think people who want to go and support the team regardless of the issues surrounding it should be called 'mugs' (not saying you have said this but it appears on this thread).

You wouldn't say that was the case in this post then?

It's not about getting us back on their side, it would be about them wanting us to start spending money again. And I do honestly think they would have to think about it if enough people stopped going and buying merchandise.

I agree, I just think it cuts both ways.

I haven't had a pass for two seasons now, and its great because when they're playing $hite I dont feel obliged to go and watch them 'just because I have a pass'. Ive actually saved a fair amount of money in this time.

Keep it up Hull!

I don't think I'm superior to anyone else because I get behind the team. I just don't get the mentality of people who say about how much they love the club and yet are prepared to turn their back on the side that they have supposedly supported all their life just because things aren't going their way.