That is fair enough, but alot of people are overreacting. We win 5 and everyone is praising the team, we lose two and next thing we are going to be bottom 3.

All I'm saying is that its two games we have lost, one which we probably should have won despite being second best.

Our fans certainley would win the award for having the biggest overreactions ever.

Either: you're too young to have any patience, so I'll forgive you; you're way too old and so can't get your brain cells to work properly any more - "mine's a mild please dear", so I'll forgive you: you're a great rugby league coach with your own track record at NRL or SL level, so apply for the job when it comes free; you're too drunk, so can I have what you're drinking please; or you're just a whining get, so get a life.

Its the nature of the defeats thats disappointing as ive said before on here. Both games were winable if we have played average never mind well. We should be 7 from 7 and it isnt good enough. Our tactics have been shocking in the last 4 games and we luckily won 2 of them. We have a squad of very talented players and stifle them by playing boring rugby, it needs to change.

How can people get so negative? I'm not over confident in saying we're gonna walk the league this year but to compare this season so far to last season is completely crazy

We lost our first away game of the season on saturday night but so far we have a better away record then THE WHOLE OF LAST YEAR !!!!!

Here's this year compared to this time last year;

2009 - P: 7 W: 5 D: 0 L: 2 F: 164 A: 127 DIF: +37
2008 - P: 9 W: 2 D: 1 L: 6 F: 147 A: 213 DIF: -66

How anyone can say we haven't improved is beyond me, if it was just overperforming we wouldn't be better in EVERY department with 2 games to spare.

Rant Over.

Thanks for reading

Now lets get a good win on sunday and go into the derby with a confident mindset !!!!

Personally I don't care if we play a boring brand of rugby if we win games, you don't get any extra points for winning by 50. But your going off the point here, we might not play champagne stuff which for some is frustrating but certainley won't be a bottom 3 side. We've had a couple of losses and despite what anyone says I think we have improved from last season, not a great deal by all means but there is improvement there.

I think people are just overreacting myself, we won't win every game but we won't lose every one either. Saying we will finish bottom 3 is a massive knee jerk reaction. Sure we won't win any silverware this year but did anyone seriousley expect that turnaround during one off season ? The team that nearly did achieve that has broken up and we are whether people like it or not in a rebuilding stage.

I don't agree that Cas are a poor side either, for me they will be a hard team for anyone to beat.

my wifes cooking his worst then last year but ffs i still eat it, you just have to live with it from time to time, seriously tho i think you need to start following city then you'll really know what negative is all about

not even bothering to read all the recent posts because its pointless, what are you on we've lost 2 games, what a nutter, theres loads of games left... even leeds and saints have lost 2 you know.

I too am just a fan of way too many years to remember. I have seen highs and lows. My dad was a director for nearly 20 years and I sat with him while people shouted abuse at the board. FC won everything there was to win and people were still not satisfied. I remember one match when his cousin shouted abuse at him because we lost a match

So, I've heard it all and I'm sure I'll hear it all again. My advice, just to patronise you once again, is to move on and enjoy every precious win along with every precious lung-full of air you draw - you don't know when either might be your last. The old fella who used to sit two seats away from me until recently is no longer with us, but he turned up until he physically couldn't. He never moaned about the team or coach and if anyone had the right I think it was him seeing as just attending was difficult.

Listen mate - you'll see what a bottom three team plays like at weekend. Hull are light years beyond that. Reading this from the outside, the sentiments are ridiculous. It is a very even competition this season and you are a stronh team but we are destined for the bottom! (Salford BTW)

Crikey - whatever happened to positivity.

In the space of a fortnight you've gone from being Mr Positive to being more pessimistic than me.