I said somewhere between 3rd and 6th. After the last couple of games, I'd probably say the same, but nearer 6th than 3rd.

I think DDD got it spot on: We have far too many average players who need to be at the top of their game to make us a good side. Unfortunately that's almost impossible to do for a full season, so you get the kind of performances of the last 2 games which just aren't good enough.

7th or 8th looking likely to me.

Plain and simple, we should be aiming for 6th-8th. Even with the impressive start to the season, it was never going to last.

We are in the same boat as Quins, Huddersfield and Castleford, aiming to improve from last season.

WHAT!!!!!! 7 GAMES IN AND YOU HAVE US DEAD AND BURIED........GET REAL.

How depressing is that? No disrespect to those teams mentioned but they are not the level we should be competing at at this stage.

You have 2 teams with poor followings and 1 who were playing NL rugby 2 years ago, all with 1 final appearance between them in recent years. We've won a trophy and made 2 further finals in the last 5 years, we should be looking at establishing ourselves alongside Leeds and Saints by now FFS.

But two of them beat us

and cas were bottom and beat saints and leeds last season..........were did leeds and saints end up??

So you seriously think we will finish in the top 2?

If we dont change our performance and approach to games yes, we will be lucky to make the top6.