Thats a fair enough point actually.

I do remember though how not that long ago people were saying how Maloney would be a great signing and could be a future GB international etc etc, now nobody seem to want to know him.

This is the point I've been trying to make recently. I'm not for one minute agreeing with GG at this stage, but conversely how on earth have you seen enough in half an hour to be so blindly convinced of Moa's potential?

The entire culture of snap judgements on players amongst many Hull fans is quite frankly laughable IMO.

I agree with you there however the biggest cheer of the afternoon greeted him onto the pitch and you could just about feel the earth move when he hit Burgess, so as a crowd pleaser and a bit of a side show he is doing fine and a few will come on Friday just to have a look! His contract payment is very small and he is obviously enjoying being here. For me the jury is still out but he has shown more promise in 25 minutes than a certain other project showed in a full season!!

why are people bringing hkr into it?

tbf i can see where gg is coming from, if crocker and lauaki get here we'll have 8 overseas players in the squad.

imo thats to many and hopefully we'll stay inside the rfl restirctions for 2010 and beyond but agar has to assemble the best squad he can and within the rules but if the rfl keep changing the rules what can he do?

he cant take the moral high road because it will cost him his job.

We'll see come derby day

That's still arguable really, and this is what amazes me. In terms of attitude he's definitely streets ahead. However, if we're basing how much playing promise he has on such a small window of game time as we've seen, how about we compare it to a similar-sized example of Maiava, say the Saints and Wigan games?

Why, thank you. I have to admit that's puzzling me as well. Maybe he's taking longer to adapt than anyone thought?

I agree with your general point, but I would also add that Moa looks a whole lot fitter than Hutch did when he came over. That coupled with his size and attitude leads me to think he will be better.

Not a difficult target to aim at, mind.

His popularity with the crowd isn't really that difficult to fathom. He's big, puts in some big hits, has a good attitude, and has an 'amusing' name. He was bound to be a crowd pleaser if he turned in even half-decent performances.

Didn't it get reported that he was ripping it up during the off season??? I seem to remember comments from both Agar and Radders.

Totally agree, there was an element of sarcasm in my post. He does look to have good potential, I just despair at the fact many seem incapable of distinguishing between 'potential' and 'finished article' and seemingly considering him ready enough to retain his place. His fitness is possibly higher than Maiava's was, but then again we at least got 2 spells from him. And again, why was Maiava's fitness a source of major criticism yet Moa's isn't even enough to consider his inclusion questionable?