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| Quote: Big Dave T "Notice he wasnt mentioned last night.
Would like to see him given a go as i really rate him with ball in hand but theres a lot more we need to know about his game in defence and mentally. Not sure if he will get the chance to show these other areas though whilst Agar is in charge.'"
Agar has a real dilemma with Hall and Briscoe because the are both exceptional talents and have big futures if they are developed correctly. But it appears Agar has nailed his colours firmly to the mast with Briscoe, especially after hearing his comment last night about how it was he that brought him to the club. I'm not sure where Hall will figure next season unless there are a spate of injuries and playing 21's will harm his development IMO.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Agar has a real dilemma with Hall and Briscoe because the are both exceptional talents and have big futures if they are developed correctly. But it appears Agar has nailed his colours firmly to the mast with Briscoe, especially after hearing his comment last night about how it was he that brought him to the club. I'm not sure where Hall will figure next season unless there are a spate of injuries and playing 21's will harm his development IMO.'"
if its not to do with his attitude why has agar got a prob with hall?
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| Quote: Sheldon "if its not to do with his attitude why has agar got a prob with hall?'"
Has to be doesnt it?
Think Agar has also shown that G Horne and Byrne will be in competition for the right centre spot unless we bring in a new signing. Hall has to go out on loan doesnt he really to get a game?
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Has to be doesnt it?
Think Agar has also shown that G Horne and Byrne will be in competition for the right centre spot unless we bring in a new signing. Hall has to go out on loan doesnt he really to get a game?'"
i dont really know what we'll gain from with horne going to centre tbh, did a great job last season covering there but i wanted him to be given a shot in the pack, he must be our fastest back rower (maybe with manu?) which is some thing we lack in the back row.
if agar doesn't want hall he should have let him leave.
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| Quote: Sheldon "i dont really know what we'll gain from with horne going to centre tbh, did a great job last season covering there but i wanted him to be given a shot in the pack, he must be our fastest back rower (maybe with manu?) which is some thing we lack in the back row.
if agar doesn't want hall he should have let him leave.'"
Agree with both points. I'd play Byrne or Briscoe in the centre when Raynor is back. Hall does appear somewhat surplus.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Has to be doesnt it?'"
Nope. Could be a simple clash of personalities, or it could be that Agar favours Briscoe as he was instrumental in bringing him to the club.
I'd like to think we could find places for both TBH. As GG said, both are exceptional talents and should have big futures if developed correctly.
Quote: Big Dave T "Think Agar has also shown that G Horne and Byrne will be in competition for the right centre spot unless we bring in a new signing. Hall has to go out on loan doesnt he really to get a game?'"
Would be a mistake IMO.
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| Quote: Kosh "Nope. Could be a simple clash of personalities, or it could be that Agar favours Briscoe as he was instrumental in bringing him to the club.
I'd like to think we could find places for both TBH. As GG said, both are exceptional talents and should have big futures if developed correctly.
Would be a mistake IMO.'"
Well Agar is here isnt he, and if they do clash that isnt going to help his chances of playing. I agree we should aim to get them both into the team but 4 into 1 doesnt go. Hall could do with a full season playing for Salford or Celtic or someone like that to work on his defensive frailties.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Well Agar is here isnt he, and if they do clash that isnt going to help his chances of playing. I agree we should aim to get them both into the team but 4 into 1 doesnt go. Hall could do with a full season playing for Salford or Celtic or someone like that to work on his defensive frailties.'"
how would that help? surely it would be better for him to defend in between crocker and horne?
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| Quote: Sheldon "how would that help? surely it would be better for him to defend in between crocker and horne?'"
It would help because he would be playing SL not 21s. It would also help because he wouldnt be able to hide behind Horne and Crocker.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "It would help because he would be playing SL not 21s. It would also help because he wouldnt be able to hide behind Horne and Crocker.'"
i see what your saying i just think guidence from those 2 would improve him no end.
but if we aren't going to play him he may as well go on loan.
will be interesting to see how he gets on at leeds.
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| Hall is a player I rate highly in attack and but not so much in defence. Part of his problem in both attack and defence is his decision making but he is still learning and I think we should cut him some slack. That said I have also heard reports about his attitude in terms of developing himself and taking criticism on board.
I would continue with Briscoe on the wing for this season (covering Raynor to start with) and look to play Hall at centre with Yeaman. However I think Horne has possibly got that spot right now so who knows?
If Hall can show some improvement this season then it would solve the problem we have with regards to another centre and with Briscoe lookng to move there from 2010 then wewould have three good options.
If Hall is in and out of the side this season then I can see him leaving at the end of the season.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "He is easy pickings coz he's young. Just ask Washy the real reason he lost the 13 jersey. Agar is weak beleive me.'"
You have no evidence of that othan you 'supposedly' being in the know.
All this neutral fan rubbish I don't buy, you continually slag off both clubs and always claim to know the truth.
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| were supposed to be developing youth !!! i agree with the points of poor decision making but who actually makes a decision in the Hull side attacking wise??? You have to keep your youth just cast your minds back when everybody was on both the hornes back and last season GH matured as a very good player.. if yeaman passed the ball to his left a bit more ...more try scoring oppotunities would occur.
back to hall hes a good goal kicker as well(sits back and waits for the abuse now)..............
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| Would have Hall over Byrne,G.Horne and the boy wonder Briscoe.
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| 28 tries in 39 games says why Hall is important to Hull.
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