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Quote: Kosh "Really?

I'd say we had larger and more pressing issues than whether or not some supporters prefer to shout rather than sing TBH.'"


I'm guessing but I think he means there is a lot of supporters who prefer to moan about any and everything,see conspiracies every where and who sit in the stands and moan throughout the full game rather than others .who seem to go to most away games who like a good sing as well!

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Quote: Sir Phoenix "I'm guessing but I think he means there is a lot of supporters who prefer to moan about any and everything,see conspiracies every where and who sit in the stands and moan throughout the full game rather than others .who seem to go to most away games who like a good sing as well!'"


Spot on, but I get what Kosh is saying. However, if you stand by the fact that supporters are the club, then the OP to this thread has a very valid point. There can be no doubt that the boulevard was more intimidating and a better atmos than the KC, on a more frequent basis. I think the OP was advocating more partisan chanting to spur the team on and I for one agree

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Quote: hull smallears "Spot on, but I get what Kosh is saying. However, if you stand by the fact that supporters are the club, then the OP to this thread has a very valid point. There can be no doubt that the boulevard was more intimidating and a better atmos than the KC, on a more frequent basis. I think the OP was advocating more partisan chanting to spur the team on and I for one agree'"


I think sterile, characterless people will tend to prefer sterile, characterless grounds. It's like the passionate, partisan fan are being phased out by Super League along with the heartland clubs. We're dinosaurs mate! It's amazing how standing up together at away games can bring it all back though! How many can we stand at now though?

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Quote: Raggytash "I think sterile, characterless people will tend to prefer sterile, characterless grounds. It's like the passionate, partisan fan are being phased out by Super League along with the heartland clubs. We're dinosaurs mate! It's amazing how standing up together at away games can bring it all back though! How many can we stand at now though?'"


Ha, you can actually correlate super league success with standing! Saints, Leeds and Bradford eh!
Maybe we need to rip a few amber seats out of the KC icon_lol.gif

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Quote: hull smallears "Ha, you can actually correlate super league success with standing! Saints, Leeds and Bradford eh!
Maybe we need to rip a few amber seats out of the KC
Errr, don't forget Wakefield Salford and Celtic.... and Cas & Rovers

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Quote: hull smallears "Spot on, but I get what Kosh is saying. However, if you stand by the fact that supporters are the club, then the OP to this thread has a very valid point. There can be no doubt that the boulevard was more intimidating and a better atmos than the KC, on a more frequent basis. I think the OP was advocating more partisan chanting to spur the team on and I for one agree'"

That's partly to do with the differences in the designs of the stadia and the relative fullness of the grounds though. When you had proportionately the same crowd (same number of people per seat of capacity) there was very little difference in atmosphere.

In other words, a small stadium near capacity is always going to have a better atmosphere than a large stadium with the same number of fans in it.

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Quote: hull smallears "Spot on, but I get what Kosh is saying. However, if you stand by the fact that supporters are the club, then the OP to this thread has a very valid point. There can be no doubt that the boulevard was more intimidating and a better atmos than the KC, on a more frequent basis. I think the OP was advocating more partisan chanting to spur the team on and I for one agree'"


The Boulevard was intimidating for the opposition because it was an extremely unpleasant place to visit. It looked like it was going to fall down, the visitors changing rooms looked like it had never been repaired after the blitz and the visiting team had to run a gauntlet of hate when they came through the tunnel.

In the last 5 years of the Boulevard (1997-2002) the only games where the atmosphere was anything like what it had been before the old 3d was demolished were

1997 rovers in the league - first derby for 3 years, big away following
1998 Leeds and Bradford in the league - good away following, closely fought games
1999 NONE
2000 Wigan, cup game
2001 St Helens play offs
2002 NONE

5 games over 6 years. Is that what so many lament back to?

The Boulevards atmosphere was as flat as a pancake for the vast majority of games unless you were actually within the 3d standing, which the majority in the ground were not.

This myth needs to be put to bed once and for all.

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Quote: Kosh "That's partly to do with the differences in the designs of the stadia and the relative fullness of the grounds though. When you had proportionately the same crowd (same number of people per seat of capacity) there was very little difference in atmosphere.

In other words, a small stadium near capacity is always going to have a better atmosphere than a large stadium with the same number of fans in it.'"


Even when the end were so far from the pitch?

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if the team are performing the KC is noisy...and crowds will naturally rise. Its hard to compare the Boulevard in the 80s when we were good to some of the drab games we've endured the last 2 seasons at home.

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Even when the end were so far from the pitch?'"

Yes.

The proximity of the side stands to the pitch, the tendency of the noise to travel more easily to other stands, and the close proximity of supporters all tends to add to the perceived atmosphere.

That does not mean that stadia like the KC are 'sterile' or incapable of generating a good atmosphere - it just means that you need more people to do it.

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The Boulevard was intimidating for the opposition because it was an extremely unpleasant place to visit. It looked like it was going to fall down, the visitors changing rooms looked like it had never been repaired after the blitz and the visiting team had to run a gauntlet of hate when they came through the tunnel.

In the last 5 years of the Boulevard (1997-2002) the only games where the atmosphere was anything like what it had been before the old 3d was demolished were

1997 rovers in the league - first derby for 3 years, big away following
1998 Leeds and Bradford in the league - good away following, closely fought games
1999 NONE
2000 Wigan, cup game
2001 St Helens play offs
2002 NONE

5 games over 6 years. Is that what so many lament back to?

The Boulevards atmosphere was as flat as a pancake for the vast majority of games unless you were actually within the 3d standing, which the majority in the ground were not.

This myth needs to be put to bed once and for all.'"


I salute you.
Remembering specific atmosphere over 6 years of football. A truly remarkable effort. You should contact Norris mcwherter

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For some reason it seems a lot harder to get excited and make a lot of noise when you are sat down rather than stood up. I am sure there is some physiological reason for it! Same thing happened when Wembley changed to seats.

Also we used to stand around in Winter so singing and jumping around was a good way to keep warm!

Summer rugbys made you all quiet pansies!

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The Boulevard was intimidating for the opposition because it was an extremely unpleasant place to visit. It looked like it was going to fall down, the visitors changing rooms looked like it had never been repaired after the blitz and the visiting team had to run a gauntlet of hate when they came through the tunnel.

In the last 5 years of the Boulevard (1997-2002) the only games where the atmosphere was anything like what it had been before the old 3d was demolished were

1997 rovers in the league - first derby for 3 years, big away following
1998 Leeds and Bradford in the league - good away following, closely fought games
1999 NONE
2000 Wigan, cup game
2001 St Helens play offs
2002 NONE

5 games over 6 years. Is that what so many lament back to?

The Boulevards atmosphere was as flat as a pancake for the vast majority of games unless you were actually within the 3d standing, which the majority in the ground were not.

This myth needs to be put to bed once and for all.'"


The last game against New Zealand was a flat atmosphere was it? Was you on glue? For gods sake, the game against Batley where Chico went 90 yards was a better atmosphere than most are now. The game against Huddersfield when we sang at Schofield until he was beating his fists on the floor to our rapturous applause. Was that flat? The game against Sheffield that kept us up and we all ran onto the pitch and held the players aloft. Was that boring? These games aren't myths.

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Quote: Raggytash "The last game against New Zealand was a flat atmosphere was it? Was you on glue? For gods sake, the game against Batley where Chico went 90 yards was a better atmosphere than most are now. The game against Huddersfield when we sang at Schofield until he was beating his fists on the floor to our rapturous applause. Was that flat? The game against Sheffield that kept us up and we all ran onto the pitch and held the players aloft. Was that boring? These games aren't myths.'"


The Sheffield game was after the club trip to Blackpool as well was it not? What a weekend that was

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Quote: shaun85 "
However we have never heard the atmosphere like at the boulevard.....
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Some people have over romantic memories. The Boulevard was generally a crap atmosphere except a small area in one stand. The KC is an better stadium by a long way.

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