You normally talk a decent amount of sense, but this is a bad post

Here here.

Powell made a huge difference at cas,dragging them from wooden spooners to mid table with the same players millward had failed miserably with.Coaches need the tools to work with but radford is clueless,after all this season he dont have the foggiest which is his strongest team,chopping and changing all the time except for his favourites.Confidence is built on having an extended run in the team,building partnerships and understanding with fellow players,not looking at the team sheet wondering if its your turn to be dropped. Being outcoached by fans favourite agar and his team of stars,just about says it all.

I'm not sure AP will be patient enough to allow him 5 years. The fans certainly won't be. We've had our first below 10k home attendances for years this year, people are glad that they can now pay for passes for 2015 in instalments but are already questioning whether they are going to bother at all. Much more of the type of performance that we've seen in the last 3 weeks and people will start voting with their feet. Will AP be forced to make changes if revenue drops significantly? Of course he will.

The whole club needs a shake up, and AP needs to set out that we can pretty much forget challenging for the next few years until that's done. We've seen it before of course, but a proper 5 year plan needs to be set out and sold to the fans, who must buy in to it.

Perhaps a "rev-hull-ution"

[qubetter than what's at the club n"Dave K."]Sa is a good signing, if it happens, just 3 more IMO, two are halfbacks though which is a real problem.'"

Do you really believe that?? Up until this post I thought you had made some valid points in the discussion.

Powell has made a massive impact since he took over the Head Coach role at Cas last May after they sacked Millward. They had only won one game and were bottom until he took over and got them winning and achieved 12th place with a gap between the bottom 2 (8pts more the London in 13th).
Cas are not blessed with a squad of stars similarly to ourselves however Powell has managed to raise the performances from each player and made them into a team.

This is evidence that if you get a decent coach in they can make an impact and improve things pretty quickly with the same group of players no matter how good bad or indifferent they are.

The evidence so far with Radford suggest to me quite strongly he is not currently the right man for the job, I believe perfomances are poorer generally than previously and we still are making the same basic & fundemental mistakes and errors. Plus Radford has been part of the melaise both as as a player and assistant which for me was another major issue when appointing him as Head Coach.

Right, let's get one thing straight, I'm not pro Radford or putting down what Powell has done at Cas. I'm making the point that whoever is in charge will need 5 years to change this club fully. We're not a 'half decent coach and 4 players away from top 4' we're miles off. It will take a full stripping down of the current playing squad and that will take 3 off seasons of heavy recruitment. Not one of our 17 on Saturday, except for Westerman would command a starting spot in any of the Leeds/Wigan/Saints/Wire teams and only Lineham of those that didn't start.

You're fooling yourselves if you think changing the coach every time we hit a rough patch during this process is a good thing. AP's chose his man to do this in my opinion. We change coach now or at the end of they year or even next year, we'll be in the same position 12-18 months later.

We have a great set of juniors coming through, something to build this club on, alongside the likes of Westy, Lineham, Shaul, Crooks, Bowden, Green & Hadley

And that's as much as we'll ever achieve unless fundamental changes are made.

You may be right but there are economic realities to consider. With lower season pass sales and falling attendances there won't be the revenue to sign good players or keep those you refer to. How long is AP prepared to contiune subsidising the club year after year? He bought the club to make money, not to lose it.

There’s an argument for both points, a coach can make a difference with average teams and get them performing way above the individual parts but there is also an element of bad influences needing to be weeded out. Powell has done a great job at Cas, Did he weed out Chase, probably not and I reckon he’d love to have kept him at the end of the year but I think the fact he’s left has improved (encouraged) the squad to perform better, ‘’ They think you’re a one man team lads’’. Some players will not respond to certain coaching techniques, they maybe think they’re above it or just not of the right mentality. Would Powell have had the same impact at Hull, who knows but probably not, maybe he just came at the right time and got a few things right.

I do think Hull seems to be a poisoned chalice tho’, Looking at the last successful coaches. Kear, cup win and sacked next year, Sharpe grand final and sacked the next year, Agar I’ll skip but to be honest the board never backed him, Gentle cup final and sacked the next year. There is no continuity or strategy. Personally I think the baby was thrown out with the bathwater with Gentle, McCrae was the one you needed rid of, Gentle being left to his own devices would have got you going in the right direction.

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Spot on Chris. As much as I like AP he is not in this because he is a passionate Hull FC fan, he's in it as a businessman. And the aim in any business is to make money. He will most certainly act if revenues drop but I imagine he'll act even sooner if he feels it's not working.

The dilemma facing Pearson, is that will his 'customers' purchase next
season's passes, if Radford is still in post??

If player deals are been agreed on Tony's/Radford recommendation, he needs to
make a decision fast on Radford's future - does he pull the plug on these deals,
and sack Radford?? - or continue with Radford? maybe a risk of pass sales??

I suggested Brian Smith, maybe as a Consultant or a DOR, as he's RL's version of Red Adair.
he sacked 5 star players at the Knights, then picked 5 players from a local council park,
they then made the NRL play-offs.

Serious question, but have you ever seen him play?

When he played a centre foe Les Catalana, he was a very good player, big and strong with a good offload, they were disapointted to lose him when he went to RU.

Also looked a good player in the NRL for the Roosters

My big concern si his injurt record, lack of gametime and being out of RL for 2 years, but if he can play like he did at centre for Catalans he will be a good signing and certainly better than our current two centres.