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| When he says the coaching is being reviewed by Radford and Last and himself, I'd highlight that isn't really a review.
would Radford sack Horne?
would Last sack Yeaman?
would Radford sack Last?
would Last suggest sacking Radford?
AP has already said LR stays
LR has said we don't need an attacking coach
6 seasons, SIX, of god awful RL, 5 drives and a kick. FC are very lucky to get 8,000 pass holders. IF we are spending OVER the cap, what would the extra passes pay for. AP calls people keyboard warriors, it's a good job the fans have a warrior spirit, as it's in short supply amongst the playing squad.
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| Quote: Dave K. "I thought it was a mixed bag, somethings I agreed with and some things not.
Things to take are that Radford will be the coach at the start of next year, pleased they are looking at the coaching structure, hopefully it will be an outsider as assistant coach, someone like James Ford would be a good choice.
I think it's time for a new coach, but it looks like that isn't happening, so I can either stop going to games or back the club and Radford, it's in my blood so it has be the latter.
I still think we are lucky to have Pearson, he has his faults but without him we wouldn't be in this position we are, as he said there isn't the money in the city or the game to replace him.
Next season is one of the biggest seasons for years, it really could make or break us, the new players will probably be enough to get a similar level of passholders, but I'm not sure we can have another season like the last two, the goodwill will be gone and it could be a slippery slide for the club.
Any fans that send personnel abuse to any payers should be banned, particularly the players mentioned.'"
Agree Dave, maybe headhunt, someone like Martin Gleeson as attack coach, or...Leon Pryce.
but employing from within, wont transform how we play..
Depending how long Radford's contract renewal is for,could determine how fans react with their feet..
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| Quote: IR80 "When he says the coaching is being reviewed by Radford and Last and himself, I'd highlight that isn't really a review.
would Radford sack Horne?
would Last sack Yeaman?
would Radford sack Last?
would Last suggest sacking Radford?
6 seasons, SIX, of god awful RL, 5 drives and a kick. FC are very lucky to get 8,000 pass holders. IF we are spending OVER the cap, what would the extra passes pay for. AP calls people keyboard warriors, it's a good job the fans habe a warrior spirit, as it's in short supply amongst the playing squad.'"
The answer to your question is 'zero chance', he wouldnt sack his mates..
Adam PearsonWe knew this was a season of transition for us. We wanted to finish top five but we didn’t expect to be in the top five. It was an aim but it doesn’t look like it is going to work out like that. We’ll be expecting top five next year[/i'.
If we are spending the full cap, we should be aiming to be top...
Either the players are earning too much salary, Or... our coaching aint good enough..
For mine any proven RL Head Coach, would be delighted with the playing roster we have..
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| Quote: weaver93 "Depending how long Radford's contract renewal is for,could determine how fans react with their feet..'"
That is the problem though (unless I have missed something), AP has said LR has a rolling contract, so maybe when the NRL come calling (the Eastern Suburbs comment) LR can just walk when it suits.
I don't think AP credits the fans with much intelligence, we can see for ourselves that the club need a new direction, some new ideas and energy from the top down.
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| Quote: weaver93 "but we didn’t expect to be in the top five. It was an aim but it doesn’t look like it is going to work out like that.'"
Imagine, you go into a top class restaurant (or at least, one that charges top class prices), the meal is awful, you complain.
Maitre d' - we don't expect a Michelin starit's an ambition, but it just doesn't seem to work out, we pay over market prices for the best ingredients, our chef just can't seem to combine them correctly, the next menu is all his own ingredients, yes, I know it was on this one, but the next one will be different. Everyone is a food critic, Social Media has made people think they have a right to air their opinions[/i]
Now, if people have been abusing players using Twitter etc. (which is totally unacceptable). Take it up with the platform and the police, but don't suggest everyone with an opinion and the internet is a "Keyboard Warrior".
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| Quote: IR80 "Imagine, you go into a top class restaurant (or at least, one that charges top class prices), the meal is awful, you complain.
Maitre d' - we don't expect a Michelin starit's an ambition, but it just doesn't seem to work out, we pay over market prices for the best ingredients, our chef just can't seem to combine them correctly, the next menu is all his own ingredients, yes, I know it was on this one, but the next one will be different. Everyone is a food critic, Social Media has made people think they have a right to air their opinions[/i]
Now, if people have been abusing players using Twitter etc. (which is totally unacceptable). Take it up with the platform and the police, but don't suggest everyone with an opinion and the internet is a "Keyboard Warrior".'"
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| Plenty to agree with from AP.
Acknowledges the disappointment of the end of season slump (again)
We can't be a serious Top 3 challenger on gates of 8k
Club and fans need to come together - home form a driver of this
We have some very good players coming in for 2020
Some our our fans behaviour and abuse on social media is beyond the pale.
I do think his loyalty to Radford is being stretched but equally he's delivered a league position in line with most expectations this year and a cup run that probably exceeds them. With next year's squad I think there will be some jeopardy for the coaching staff.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Plenty to agree with from AP.
Acknowledges the disappointment of the end of season slump (again)
We can't be a serious Top 3 challenger on gates of 8k
Club and fans need to come together - home form a driver of this
We have some very good players coming in for 2020
Some our our fans behaviour and abuse on social media is beyond the pale.
I do think his loyalty to Radford is being stretched but equally he's delivered a league position in line with most expectations this year and a cup run that probably exceeds them. With next year's squad I think there will be some jeopardy for the coaching staff.'"
We spend OVER the cap, why do we need bigger gates,?
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| I really do admire AP. Of late I have to question him.
LR is the sole answer to all his frustrations.
Every fan in the City wouldn't argue if AP released LR. Not one fan would demand a reinstatement.
I can't understand why AP can't see the obvious answer. I'm also in bewilderment
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| It's fair enough IMO and radford was never going to get sacked this year. Hopefully the comment about coaching changes means a new attacking coach coming in and if we're spending over the cap does that mean marquee player(s)?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Plenty to agree with from AP.
Acknowledges the disappointment of the end of season slump (again)
We can't be a serious Top 3 challenger on gates of 8k
Club and fans need to come together - home form a driver of this
We have some very good players coming in for 2020
[iSome our our fans behaviour and abuse on social media is beyond the pale[/i
I do think his loyalty to Radford is being stretched but equally he's delivered a league position in line with most expectations this year and a cup run that probably exceeds them. With next year's squad I think there will be some jeopardy for the coaching staff.'"
1.('[i'Acknowledges the disappointment of the end of season slump (again)'[/i')
yet again...
2.([i'We can't be a serious Top 3 challenger on gates of 8k'[/i.. )
Hardly surprising with 5 slow passes and a speculative kick. AP needs to wake up and smell the coffee -IMO..
3.([i'Club and fans need to come together - home form a driver of this'[/i)
IF he addresses point 2, point 3 will take care of itself.
4.([i'We have some very good players coming in for 2020'[/i)
RL is played on grass,not on a teamsheet.
5.([i'Some our our fans behaviour& abuse on social media is beyond the pale'[/i)
Agree,should have been reported to the relevant authorities..
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| Well Pearson admits the coaching needs help which Radford said not long ago it didnt. Lets see if Pearson actually acts on this or if its more of his baloney ala shipping out the none performing players like last year that then never actually happened.
At the moment i want to support the club and was in the mindset that i wanted to attend more matches next year as i was optimistic with the new players coming in then we turned to and the season fell apart again and my optimism for next season has vanished - actually improving the coaching will make my decision on whether to increase my attendance or not to bother like the players this season
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| Quote: Dave K. "I thought it was a mixed bag, somethings I agreed with and some things not.
Things to take are that Radford will be the coach at the start of next year, pleased they are looking at the coaching structure, hopefully it will be an outsider as assistant coach, someone like James Ford would be a good choice.
I think it's time for a new coach, but it looks like that isn't happening, so I can either stop going to games or back the club and Radford, it's in my blood so it has be the latter.
I still think we are lucky to have Pearson, he has his faults but without him we wouldn't be in this position we are, as he said there isn't the money in the city or the game to replace him.
Next season is one of the biggest seasons for years, it really could make or break us, the new players will probably be enough to get a similar level of passholders, but I'm not sure we can have another season like the last two, the goodwill will be gone and it could be a slippery slide for the club.
Any fans that send personnel abuse to any payers should be banned, particularly the players mentioned.'"
Ford turned down being assistant to Tony Smith at Rovers, he wants a head coach position
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "
I do think his loyalty to Radford is being stretched but equally he's delivered a league position in line with most expectations this year and a cup run that probably exceeds them. With next year's squad I think there will be some jeopardy for the coaching staff.'"
Adam sees what we all see but won't act upon it.
If gates did dwindle to 8000 then he'd only have himself to blame for continuing with Radford.
This season's league position and Cup run is not in line with most expectations, only yours.
Down play our chances then even mediocrity and under achievement looks like success.
That way you'll never have to criticise Lee or the club.
I would certainly hope with this investment in the new squad expectations would be raised even by you and Pearson would act if the trudgery continued, otherwise more fans will definitely walk away.
The club is treading a fine line at the moment in terms of continued belief in Lee and alienating the fan base. Next season will go either way for sure.
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| Can’t he just fob radford of in to a director of rugby position, if he’s really that scared to get rid
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