You took the words out of my mouth. He'd be happy to tip his cap to Mr Andrew/Lord Bollocks and the rest who are still around today. We will never have what Coddie suggests as in Germany/France because (as some-one who has been only a mere Admin worker) we still have those who even at the office level think they are better than those who are slogging away on the shopfloor.

He'll be sat in the GC on Sunday, after his round, with his similar thinking cronies, pontificating, putting the world to rights.

Where would we be without them?

Bless.

BAe Brough has excellant labour relations, is a profitable site and has an adaptable work force who have moved with the times. The Aerospace industry has shrunk and shrunk within this country, how long before the RAf will be buying Hawk 128s from India , they new home of the Hawk ?

Trouble is we had a right wing governent who came along and slashed our Air Force in the name of cuts. It did not take in account any ongoing operations or threats, it cut purely to save money, money it will now be paying out in unemployement and other benefits. Brough relied on this work The Harrier, Nimrod where sacrificed to save a pittance and we will still ahve to cough up mega bucks to replace the Nimrods because we can no longer patrol our sea's. Ex USN Orions are being touted as a stop gap before we have a serious incident with Hercules trying to save people in trouble. #

Surely one of the biggest tragedies of them all, billions wasted just to save the equivalent of pennies - the public will never know the real cost.

Hawk sub-assemblies are to be made in India and hawks will merely be assembled in this country.
Also Saudi Arabia will soon be purchasing some of the RAF's spanking new Hawks just so they can meet budgets with the MOD.

Well done Cameron.

The Unions failed to allow manufacturing industry to modernise? Now you are having a laugh.

If you persist in employing "lazy SOBs", then that says more about either your inability to select employees, your wage structure, your working conditions or more likely, all three.

Don't try and pin your shortcomings on the unions.

Now I suspect I already know the answer to this but I'm going to ask anyway: Have you ever considered initiating the principles of W Edwards Deming or 4th Generation Management?

I hope this gets resolved quickly. Speaking as somebody with experience, the threat of redundancy is often worst than the actual event - at least once it has happened you can accept it and begin moving on.

The only silver lining here (and its a very thin one) is that at least there is a all in it together situation. Redundancy shame and likewise guilt, however misplaced for those who get to stay can be mentally truly horrible. Hopefully some can band together and set up some innovative business ventures.

My true sympathy for all effected. For what its worth redundancy, although terrible for me was initally, the best thing that could happen. A month later I landed a dream job at a time I had felt that the prospects were hopeless.

And I make money off the backs of others.

Come on Dave, you do know them pesky unions had the audacity to push for a fiver an hour national minimum wage, much to the disdain of Jakes friends in high places.

Strewth!

We don't ever want them Netto shoppers getting anywhere near the doors of Marks & Sparks, do we now?

I'm loving this

Unfortunately, the country is full of people who believe the state owes them and it's why we're in the state we're in - that and the former government who spent to excess and would have us bankrupt by now if they'd stayed in power

I think you may have ever so slightly swallowed the tabloids pill.

Indeed he has - please enlighted us Jake as to how/ what your business is and how many you employ on I am sure minimum wage - Newsagents, Sweet shop,painter decorator?? - It is certainly not in the Hundreds/thousands I am sure.

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