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| Quote: Wellsy13 "If the Allams purchase the stadium, the council could always use the cash to build us a new ground and upgrade Rovers' so that in effect they've touched all three clubs?
Wouldn't mind seeing Hull play in an 18-20k stadium with standing. The atmosphere is dying at the all-seated KC.
Could have an agreement to play our home derby at the KC as well to maximise attendances averages and (if a good deal) profit?
Failing that, maybe Pearson could hire someone to rip up a chunk of seats in the corner of the East Stand after City play on the Saturday so that we have a lovely standing area for the Sunday home games? Could call it "Threepenny Corner!"'"
Extract from HDM article rlhttps://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/don-t-want-buy-stadium-ndash-want-free/story-13242691-detail/story.htmlrl
"At the recent full council meeting held in July, council leader Steve Brady was asked two simple questions. Have the Allams made a formal offer to purchase the KC Stadium and have the Allams recently asked for a meeting to even discuss the purchase of the stadium?
On both questions the answer was "no". That is now a matter of public knowledge.
Now for my opinion. The Allams don't want to buy the KC, they want it for free, or if not free, then not the many millions of pounds the KC Stadium and the surrounding land is worth.
Having got it, they then want to raise a mortgage of £60 million to pay for development of a sports village.
If I am right, what we have is the Allams expecting the people of Hull to donate assets worth in excess of £60 million so they can build facilities worth many more millions, using borrowed money, secured on the valuable assets we currently own, and then to rent that facility back to us and when it is paid for they retain ownership.
Their plans are breathtaking in their audacity."
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| Quote: Rock God X "It was pretty good at the start of the Wire game. Once we get a decent coach on board and stop playing crap rugby, the atmosphere will come back.'"
Totally agree
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| Quote: Rock God X "It was pretty good at the start of the Wire game. Once we get a decent coach on board and stop playing crap rugby, the atmosphere will come back.'"
It'll improve no doubt, but won't be as good as it could be.
Another thing I hate about the KC is being stuck near some complete idiots. When Horney went down against Wire, there were people near us saying they hope he'd broke his f***ing neck. WTF?! Yeah, they might not have realised it was a Hull player thanks to the similar style kits (thanks RFL for allowing that), but I don't wanna be sat near a moron that continually shouts that cr*p. The same area has the odd woman constantly shouting the c-word at the top of her voice (very lady like), and some guy that really needs to learn the offside rule before he has a brain haemorrhage from the rage (if he's tackled on the 30m line from a tap 20, how can he be offside you moron?!).
Now if it was standing, at least I'd have the choice to go near some less annoying morons!
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| The atmosphere will never come back as long as the east stand is reserved seating!
If they ever put a 2nd tier on the east stand we should press to have a standing section. Bring back the terraces, the only way to really get a proper atmosphere back.
There is big moves within Premiership club fans to bring back 'safe standing areas'. Some clubs in Germany are allready doing so.
Most away fans in football now stand in all seater stadiums.
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| Quote: VerbalKint "The atmosphere will never come back as long as the east stand is reserved seating!
If they ever put a 2nd tier on the east stand we should press to have a standing section. Bring back the terraces, the only way to really get a proper atmosphere back.
There is big moves within Premiership club fans to bring back 'safe standing areas'. Some clubs in Germany are allready doing so.
Most away fans in football now stand in all seater stadiums.'"
All depends on the FA really. Doubt it'll happen.
Doubt they'd go through the messing about of removing and replacing seats just for the rugby 13x a year as well.
How long do you reckon it would take to say remove the top half of seats in the East stand (north end) from the corner to the disabled area (rough guess of 1,250 seats) and put up them leaning posts?
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "All depends on the FA really. Doubt it'll happen.
Doubt they'd go through the messing about of removing and replacing seats just for the rugby 13x a year as well.
How long do you reckon it would take to say remove the top half of seats in the East stand (north end) from the corner to the disabled area (rough guess of 1,250 seats) and put up them leaning posts?'"
you coudln't do it, the rake/pitch of the concrete work isn't safe for standing, it's a completely different prospect creating a standing area, when we first moved to the KC I would have loved it then, now it's an unnecessary expense, the atmosphere is gone because we've been shoite and the crowd has matured (as has society as a whole), as I have said before, you want to sing, join a choir.
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| Quote: downtheante "Extract from HDM article rlhttps://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/don-t-want-buy-stadium-ndash-want-free/story-13242691-detail/story.htmlrl
"At the recent full council meeting held in July, council leader Steve Brady was asked two simple questions. Have the Allams made a formal offer to purchase the KC Stadium and have the Allams recently asked for a meeting to even discuss the purchase of the stadium?
On both questions the answer was "no". That is now a matter of public knowledge.
Now for my opinion. The Allams don't want to buy the KC, they want it for free, or if not free, then not the many millions of pounds the KC Stadium and the surrounding land is worth.
Having got it, they then want to raise a mortgage of £60 million to pay for development of a sports village.
If I am right, what we have is the Allams expecting the people of Hull to donate assets worth in excess of £60 million so they can build facilities worth many more millions, using borrowed money, secured on the valuable assets we currently own, and then to rent that facility back to us and when it is paid for they retain ownership.
Their plans are breathtaking in their audacity."'"
Pete Allen, who wrote this, is currently a Labour Councillor on Hull City council. My own councillor seems equally unimpressed, and, as many have pointed out, Brady and other cabinet members have also distanced themselves from the Allam bandwagon, which seems to have one wheel in a ditch somewhere, at present.
It is interesting that the only letter the Mail has published in response to this was vehemently opposed to Mr Allen, claiming the council were fools if they ignored the "philantropist's" "gift", as he thinks Allam is entirely honorable, and compares to other such benefactors such as Pearson (Zac, not our Lord), Reckitt and Ferens. He claims that Hull citizens had no right to deny Allam his dream and should sell with haste.
Shame the letter writer comes from Beverley and it is none of his damn business.
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| the chairman is clear in his vision for the club off the pitch. he wants to create a sporting village at the stadium encompassing all sports including ice skating gymnastics squash hockey boxing swimming tennis and indoor football. this is his vision, a sporting village being used by the whole sporting community of the east riding, not just a football and rugby stadium. this is a fantastic ambition for the city of hull and one that was very similar to our original plan when we first moved here although we needed to finance it by having a casino and hotel development not from private family funds at that time. obviously it only works with a successful and well funded football club underpinning the whole concept,but it is a worthy dream for mr allam to have. the stadium would be buzzing every day with sporting use of many different cultures. the vision includes an ice rink, swimming pool, squash courts and indoor football pitches and would be totally open for the use of the wholesporting community of hull. mr allam needs the council to sell the freehold of the kc stadium to him so that he can invest in the infrastructure through the usual development loans and financing routes, which is the way to develop the site properly. the feehold is key to mr allams dream as he cannot raise the required funds without it. the nature of the present forty-two year lease means the counsil dont get a financial return annually from the rent anyway, which cant be right for the long term health of the stadium and city. here the council could make a financial return so badly needed and unleash the dream of a sporting village really putting hull ay the forefront of national sporting facilities. im not sure how the council coul lose and hopefully they will see they have a perfect opportunity to make the city some money and enable private development to create a public facility that will bring great pride to the region. believe me mr allam will not make money from a sporting village, it will be a massive financial commitment but one he believes is necessary to create the huge sporting legacy he wants to build for the city of hull. mr allam doesnt want to move away from the kc, he wants it to become the thriving centre of regional sport creating opportunities for many sporting stars of the future. if he doesnt get the freehold we cant move the vision forward and we will just stand still in a 25.000 capacity stadium and a real opportunity will have been lost. adam pearsons hull city programme notes. doesnt seem like he is singing of the same hymn sheet as the old faithful.
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| Quote: looking in "the chairman is clear in his vision for the club off the pitch. he wants to create a sporting village at the stadium encompassing all sports including ice skating gymnastics squash hockey boxing swimming tennis and indoor football. this is his vision, a sporting village being used by the whole sporting community of the east riding, not just a football and rugby stadium. this is a fantastic ambition for the city of hull and one that was very similar to our original plan when we first moved here although we needed to finance it by having a casino and hotel development not from private family funds at that time. obviously it only works with a successful and well funded football club underpinning the whole concept,but it is a worthy dream for mr allam to have. the stadium would be buzzing every day with sporting use of many different cultures. the vision includes an ice rink, swimming pool, squash courts and indoor football pitches and would be totally open for the use of the wholesporting community of hull. mr allam needs the council to sell the freehold of the kc stadium to him so that he can invest in the infrastructure through the usual development loans and financing routes, which is the way to develop the site properly. the feehold is key to mr allams dream as he cannot raise the required funds without it. the nature of the present forty-two year lease means the counsil dont get a financial return annually from the rent anyway, which cant be right for the long term health of the stadium and city. here the council could make a financial return so badly needed and unleash the dream of a sporting village really putting hull ay the forefront of national sporting facilities. im not sure how the council coul lose and hopefully they will see they have a perfect opportunity to make the city some money and enable private development to create a public facility that will bring great pride to the region. believe me mr allam will not make money from a sporting village, it will be a massive financial commitment but one he believes is necessary to create the huge sporting legacy he wants to build for the city of hull. mr allam doesnt want to move away from the kc, he wants it to become the thriving centre of regional sport creating opportunities for many sporting stars of the future. if he doesnt get the freehold we cant move the vision forward and we will just stand still in a 25.000 capacity stadium and a real opportunity will have been lost. adam pearsons hull city programme notes. doesnt seem like he is singing of the same hymn sheet as the old faithful.'"
I've read some garbled nonsense in my time on here, but this is priceless. One question. If the detailed plans for the "philanthropic sporting village" are so compelling, why haven't they been shared with the council?
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| Quote: looking in "the chairman is clear in his vision for the club off the pitch. he wants to create a sporting village at the stadium encompassing all sports including ice skating gymnastics squash hockey boxing swimming tennis and indoor football. this is his vision, a sporting village being used by the whole sporting community of the east riding, not just a football and rugby stadium. this is a fantastic ambition for the city of hull and one that was very similar to our original plan when we first moved here although we needed to finance it by having a casino and hotel development not from private family funds at that time. obviously it only works with a successful and well funded football club underpinning the whole concept,but it is a worthy dream for mr allam to have. the stadium would be buzzing every day with sporting use of many different cultures. the vision includes an ice rink, swimming pool, squash courts and indoor football pitches and would be totally open for the use of the wholesporting community of hull. mr allam needs the council to sell the freehold of the kc stadium to him so that he can invest in the infrastructure through the usual development loans and financing routes, which is the way to develop the site properly. the feehold is key to mr allams dream as he cannot raise the required funds without it. the nature of the present forty-two year lease means the counsil dont get a financial return annually from the rent anyway, which cant be right for the long term health of the stadium and city. here the council could make a financial return so badly needed and unleash the dream of a sporting village really putting hull ay the forefront of national sporting facilities. im not sure how the council coul lose and hopefully they will see they have a perfect opportunity to make the city some money and enable private development to create a public facility that will bring great pride to the region. believe me mr allam will not make money from a sporting village, it will be a massive financial commitment but one he believes is necessary to create the huge sporting legacy he wants to build for the city of hull. mr allam doesnt want to move away from the kc, he wants it to become the thriving centre of regional sport creating opportunities for many sporting stars of the future. if he doesnt get the freehold we cant move the vision forward and we will just stand still in a 25.000 capacity stadium and a real opportunity will have been lost. adam pearsons hull city programme notes. doesnt seem like he is singing of the same hymn sheet as the old faithful.'"
Are they really Adam Pearsons words?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I've read some garbled nonsense in my time on here, but this is priceless. '"
You actually read it? I got about five words in and decided it wasn't worth it.
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| taken from adam pearsons column in a hull city programme.
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| Quote: looking in "taken from adam pearsons column in a hull city programme.'" When was this, exactly?
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| 08-03-11 v burnley. adam could find himself between a rock and a hard place.
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| Quote: looking in "08-03-11 v burnley. adam could find himself between a rock and a hard place.'" So, 4 months before he bought FC then? Next.
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