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| We won’t get better than Smith with the current set of circumstances.
There are things we can see improvements in, without it costing money - i.e. on field discipline and style of play. We really need to see improvements in this area, and quick.
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| What’s Smiths contract…3yrs?….it definitely needs another off season recruitment then Houghton and Carlos will be off contract as well as others and with the Covid loan behind us,which has hurt us far more than some think….there are worrying signs with the discipline which just won’t go away…..
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| FWIW he signed 2 years. Pearson quoted as saying he is the last coach he will appoint? Smith was sacked by Rovers for his unprofessionalism and disrespect of the clubs ethics. He signed for Hull on a quoted bumper deal and Pearson saying he is the highest paid coach in SL at that time. Smith lost the dressing room at Rovers and the players were disillusioned with his tactics. He openly admits he didn’t have the contacts here or in Aus anymore and relies on agents and referrals. He thinks the old approach of being the players Best friend is the way the cement their relationship. he is incapable of the big decisions which involved dropping players of even moving them on. Hull are in perpetual decline and with the mounting debts Pearson is running up it can only mean one thing. Come next season grading Hull will be a mid”B” but safe for another year. As for 2026 I fear the worst and I love the Derbies but they will be a thing of the past.
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| Quote: The Cooke Report "FWIW he signed 2 years. Pearson quoted as saying he is the last coach he will appoint? Smith was sacked by Rovers for his unprofessionalism and disrespect of the clubs ethics. He signed for Hull on a quoted bumper deal and Pearson saying he is the highest paid coach in SL at that time. Smith lost the dressing room at Rovers and the players were disillusioned with his tactics. He openly admits he didn’t have the contacts here or in Aus anymore and relies on agents and referrals. He thinks the old approach of being the players Best friend is the way the cement their relationship. he is incapable of the big decisions which involved dropping players of even moving them on. Hull are in perpetual decline and with the mounting debts Pearson is running up it can only mean one thing. Come next season grading Hull will be a mid”B” but safe for another year. As for 2026 I fear the worst and I love the Derbies but they will be a thing of the past.'"
You Pearsons accountant?….you don’t know about the debts,just guessing…..as for all the other waffle…just waffle
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| Quote: The Cooke Report "FWIW he signed 2 years. Pearson quoted as saying he is the last coach he will appoint? Smith was sacked by Rovers for his unprofessionalism and disrespect of the clubs ethics. He signed for Hull on a quoted bumper deal and Pearson saying he is the highest paid coach in SL at that time. Smith lost the dressing room at Rovers and the players were disillusioned with his tactics. He openly admits he didn’t have the contacts here or in Aus anymore and relies on agents and referrals. He thinks the old approach of being the players Best friend is the way the cement their relationship. he is incapable of the big decisions which involved dropping players of even moving them on. Hull are in perpetual decline and with the mounting debts Pearson is running up it can only mean one thing. Come next season grading Hull will be a mid”B” but safe for another year. As for 2026 I fear the worst and I love the Derbies but they will be a thing of the past.'"
He didn't find it hard to drop Korbin Sims, relegated him to the golf course
I do actually agree with a lot about what you're saying about Tony Smith though, I think he's long in the tooth and a bit out of touch for modern rugby. He talks about playing the young kids but he loves a square peg in a round hole lol.
I think Hull would be better off moving him upstairs and letting Grix have a go, he may be inexperienced but he'll at least have modern ideas.
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| Quote: The games afoot "What’s Smiths contract…3yrs?….it definitely needs another off season recruitment then Houghton and Carlos will be off contract as well as others and with the Covid loan behind us,which has hurt us far more than some think….there are worrying signs with the discipline which just won’t go away…..'"
Why would a Covid loan hurt us more than other S/L clubs,that is the big question
The real problem we have with finance is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income,we know funds are tight
but we dont know how much he takes out of the club.
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| Quote: bonaire "Why would a Covid loan hurt us more than other S/L clubs,that is the big question
The real problem we have with finance is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income,we know funds are tight and we
but we dont know how much he takes out of the club.'"
I'm glad people are starting to cotton on to Pearson.
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| Quote: bonaire "Why would a Covid loan hurt us more than other S/L clubs,that is the big question
The real problem we have with finance is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income,we know funds are tight
but we dont know how much he takes out of the club.'"
Entirely depends how much was borrowed surely?
I assume the clubs with very wealthy backers managed to do without one.
Clubs that own their grounds also presumably had less outgoings as they aren't still paying rent.
Pearson is by no means perfect but where has this idea that he is somehow impovershing us by taking all the money for himself come from?
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| Quote: bonaire "Why would a Covid loan hurt us more than other S/L clubs,that is the big question
The real problem we have with finance is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income,we know funds are tight
but we dont know how much he takes out of the club.'"
Probably because we still had to pay the going rate per week/month even when no games where going ahead and when games were played but no fans allowed in the Stadium.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Probably because we still had to pay the going rate per week/month even when no games where going ahead and when games were played but no fans allowed in the Stadium.'"
But there are other clubs playing in Joint stadiums with football teams,RU teams or council controlled stadiums.
The difference as i said is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income and whilst he is entitled to receive money from the club what we dont know is how much he actually takes from the club in salary or other means.
Its probably one reason why he seemingly wants to retain full control of the club.
I am not having a go at Pearson but whilst the club is in a truly dire situation on and off the field it wouldnt be a bad thing for him to engage with the fans on a regular pod cast on FC live.Say it as it is and let him hear what the fans think.He seems to have gone away from what used to be a reasonably close relationship with the fanbase
If he loses support of the fan base the club is dead
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| Quote: bonaire "But there are other clubs playing in Joint stadiums with football teams,RU teams or council controlled stadiums.
The difference as i said is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income and whilst he is entitled to receive money from the club what we dont know is how much he actually takes from the club in salary or other means.
Its probably one reason why he seemingly wants to retain full control of the club.
Quote: bonaire "I am not having a go at Pearson but whilst the club is in a truly dire situation on and off the field it wouldnt be a bad thing for him to engage with the fans on a regular pod cast on FC live.Say it as it is and let him hear what the fans think.He seems to have gone away from what used to be a reasonably close relationship with the fanbase'"
If he loses support of the fan base the club is dead'"
You get the occasional interview in the Yorkshire Post and HDM which raises more questions than answers but I agree with the state of play at the moment he needs to engage with the fans directly. And soon.
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| Quote: bonaire "But there are other clubs playing in Joint stadiums with football teams,RU teams or council controlled stadiums.
The difference as i said is that Hull FC is Pearsons only income and whilst he is entitled to receive money from the club what we dont know is how much he actually takes from the club in salary or other means.
Its probably one reason why he seemingly wants to retain full control of the club.
I am not having a go at Pearson but whilst the club is in a truly dire situation on and off the field it wouldnt be a bad thing for him to engage with the fans on a regular pod cast on FC live.Say it as it is and let him hear what the fans think.He seems to have gone away from what used to be a reasonably close relationship with the fanbase
If he loses support of the fan base the club is dead'"
I don’t disagree
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| Quote: Chris71 "The lack of not just quality in the halves but the actual lack halves is a huge problem for us and it was glaringly obvious last night.
Doesn’t matter in a sense how good the forwards are when we have nothing in terms of creating or using the platform created.
We never looked anywhere close to scoring
Whilst we look weak in the backs I think there’s enough there to work on that can improve us there but again with the halves we have very little in terms of the ability to link it all together.'"
I don't even know why we have an academy, when was the last quality player, not just someone who can get in the team, came out of it? Horne/Houghton? That's nearly 20 years.
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| When was the last time Hull FC academy produced a fantastic
7 , 6 or centre ?
When ??? The answer will surprise you and I mean a player on the verge of Intl honours
Cooke - we won 1 Challenge Cup with him
Horne - full back ? And again very little success
Yeaman - as above
Before them ?
It’s clear that the Academy only creates forwards in general
Remember FC rejected Shaul despite me advising them to take him and he played at Skirlaugh Open Age
So we really have a shocking track record at producing a 7 , 6 or centre
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| Quote: Edenmain "I don't even know why we have an academy, when was the last quality player, not just someone who can get in the team, came out of it? Horne/Houghton? That's nearly 20 years.'"
Mikey Lewis.
Oh, wait.....
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