But that's the difference between having your halves on the pitch 5 times in a season and 20odd , wouldn't you say?
Plus, as i said, Westerman will help with this aswell.

No, it's the difference between having a coach who has worked with the best in the world and one who has worked with john kear and peter sharp

Do you believe that under the current coach and with the current players that we are capable of ripping a top 6 side to pieces like wigan did to us at the KC last season?

Yes, we did it to Saints opening game last year.

No we didn't. saints were the better side for the first 20 minutes and we didn't exactly dominate them through the game

And we still beat them.

we nilled them for 60 minutes, i think we pretty much bossed them.

Edit: Also add to that - they only scored after Tansey had been sin-binned and we were down to 12.

But we didn't destroy them like wigan did us.

You're missing the point though Jake. I've already said that Wigan are a hell of a lot better at it than us.
Nobody else "destroyed" us. And we certainly weren't the only team to be "destroyed".

But that's what we aspire to Jake, we're not there yet by any stretch, but neithers anyone else.

How do you know?.Nobody could see the bloody game.

The point you made was that we play pretty much the same as wigan, just that they're better at it. Now you could take it back to basics and say that cott tigers under 11's play pretty much the same as wigan, just aren't as good at it if you want, but it's irrelevant.

Our style of play is nothing like wigans. They rely on movement off the ball, controlling the PTB through good defensive technique, moving the ball quickly to the wings, great kick chase etc. We look like complete plodders in comparison with our forward orientated, safety first rugby, sloppy defence and forwards trying to barge over from 3 metres out. It's the only way agar knows

We may not have been destroyed but we were certainly embarrassed by the likes of quins,salford and crusaders.
We have a basic gameplan, easy to neutralize. You just seem to be the eternal optimist instead of being a realist like Jake and myself.

I think you're reading far too much into how Wigan play, it's an easy mistake to make. We play the same when our halves are fit. The problem we have is when our halves aren't fit we move away from that. Wigan are just that much better at it than us.