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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "He has to fight Wladimir as at least with him he has the chance to land a big shot, Vitali would control Haye and wear him down IMO.'"
That was Harrisons plan , But faced with a fighter who can punch and is quick with it , It's not so easy.
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| Quote: B0NES "That was Harrisons plan , But faced with a fighter who can punch and is quick with it , It's not so easy.'"
Just got back from seeing it in a pub, Harrison managed one half decent punch, what a choker. I think if Haye had gone for it he could have done him in the 1st. I think Haye could take either of the brothers and beat them, that should be the only fight he should try and get now. Even if he can't secure a 50/50 purse split, to take his place as a great of this era he needs to fight them.
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| Quote: B0NES "That was Harrisons plan , But faced with a fighter who can punch and is quick with it , It's not so easy.'"
Faced with a paper bag, Harrison would have struggled. Can't believe I shelled out £15 on that, I'm off straight to trading standards on Monday!
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| Quote: B0NES "That was Harrisons plan , But faced with a fighter who can punch and is quick with it , It's not so easy.'" You cant compare Harrison to Vitali, i would fancy Haye to beat Wlad though.
Pacman and Margarito was sensational last night though and Pacman v Mayweather has to happen.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "You cant compare Harrison to Vitali, i would fancy Haye to beat Wlad though.
Pacman and Margarito was sensational last night though and Pacman v Mayweather has to happen.'"
Margarito got beat up and looked like he was going down in the 4th but did well to continue. He looked pedestrian against Pacquiao's speed and accuracy. It should have been stopped in the 9th imo.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "You cant compare Harrison to Vitali, i would fancy Haye to beat Wlad though.
Pacman and Margarito was sensational last night though and Pacman v Mayweather has to happen.'"
I like Haye but don't think he would beat either of them, they are both too cagey for Haye to be able to knock them out. The only thing that might help them is that they really want to beat him up and that coud leave them open to a big shot.
Would love to see Manny v Floyd, think Floyd would take him.
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| Quote: PAUL M "I like Haye but don't think he would beat either of them, they are both too cagey for Haye to be able to knock them out. The only thing that might help them is that they really want to beat him up and that coud leave them open to a big shot.
Would love to see Manny v Floyd, think Floyd would take him.'"
That would be the greatest fight of the last two decades, not seen anything like that since the days of Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard and the Hitman, who all had their own boxing dynasties built around their awesome fights. I couldn't pick a winner.
Going back to Haye and I know neither him or the brothers have ever really fought anyone of any real class apart from the one clash with Lewis which Vitali could have won if it hadn't been for a cut. But just watching them fight I think Haye has the speed, brains and class to beat them both, for their size the brothers from what I can remember don't have a fantastic KO rate, they tend to grind fighters down. If he can get inside them, he can do them both.
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| Quote: Dr Hfuhruhurr "Faced with a paper bag, Harrison would have struggled. Can't believe I shelled out £15 on that, I'm off straight to trading standards on Monday!'"
Only £15, I went and it cost me £55. Good day (and night) on the pop tho!
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| Quote: PAUL M "Would love to see Manny v Floyd, think Floyd would take him.'" Yeah i agree i would tip Money to take it on points, which i hope he does as given his record he doesnt get the credit he deserves.
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| What happened to the big punching kiwi/polynesian David Tua? Saw some of his knockouts on youtube and he looked good a bit ago did he pack it in? Wouldn't take much of a comeback now-a-days to be right up there I would reckon?
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| made a comeback against a highly rated aussie and sparked him.think hes had a low key fight since and expect a shot at one of the klitschko's soon.hes been found out at top level and hes getting on a bit,but boy he can finish a fight alright.he showed haye the way to knock out john ruiz in 30seconds about 15years before the haymaker did it,check it on that video sit and enjoy!!
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| Quote: PAUL M "I like Haye but don't think he would beat either of them, they are both too cagey for Haye to be able to knock them out. The only thing that might help them is that they really want to beat him up and that coud leave them open to a big shot.
Would love to see Manny v Floyd, think Floyd would take him.'"
Haye will beat at least one of them during 2011, there's this myth that the Klitscko's are untouchable and they're really not. They're recent fights have been pathetic, fighting no mark, handpicked hasbeen's they're guaranteed to beat. Wladimir's only recent fought Samuel Peter, he looked knackered off the walk in. Haye's speed and power will get him through, no one in the heavyweight division can punch like Haye and no one can take too many of them shots. They're so boring and defensive Haye could easily get on top, it would probably need a knockout though they're like gods in Germany you'd be unlikely to score a points victory.
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| Quote: Dan_FC "Haye will beat at least one of them during 2011, there's this myth that the Klitscko's are untouchable and they're really not. They're recent fights have been pathetic, fighting no mark, handpicked hasbeen's they're guaranteed to beat. Wladimir's only recent fought Samuel Peter, he looked knackered off the walk in. Haye's speed and power will get him through, no one in the heavyweight division can punch like Haye and no one can take too many of them shots. They're so boring and defensive Haye could easily get on top, it would probably need a knockout though they're like gods in Germany you'd be unlikely to score a points victory.'"
I think he would have a good chance of beating them but if they just sit behind the jab it will be hard for him to get close as they have lots of experience. If I were him I would choose Vlad first.
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| Quote: PAUL M "I think he would have a good chance of beating them but if they just sit behind the jab it will be hard for him to get close as they have lots of experience. If I were him I would choose Vlad first.'"
You can only sit behind your jab if your fighting no marks, Haye has proved against Valuev that he can get inside a big man and do damage, he has got a huge amount of class. As for picking brothers if it was down to a simple choice, surely you'd choose the one who's nearly 40, which is Vitai. Also of the has beens they have been fighting Vlad has had the harder opponents, where as Vitali has really been fed a line up of dogs dinners. So on paper Vitali is the easier option.
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| Quote: FC Guvnor "You can only sit behind your jab if your fighting no marks, Haye has proved against Valuev that he can get inside a big man and do damage, he has got a huge amount of class. As for picking brothers if it was down to a simple choice, surely you'd choose the one who's nearly 40, which is Vitai. Also of the has beens they have been fighting Vlad has had the harder opponents, where as Vitali has really been fed a line up of dogs dinners. So on paper Vitali is the easier option.'"
Both the brother are better than Valuev though and smarter. I don't rate either of them really but Haye has also not really fought anyone although I do like his style. Vitali is the better fighter imo, either way if Haye goes in with no fear then he has a very good chance but he would start as the underdog.
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