Isn't it though? Imagine giving it large when playing poorly, disappearing when on a fabulous run, only comment on Wembley 2016 was what a shame it was Stevie Michaels was going - like a bonaire training course. The fragility of you both in the face of a little smiling emoji is crackers.

Having watched the game today again I thought Carlos had a good game , ran the ball in strongly and was difficult to bring down on most carries , but also kept rovers danger man skd quiet for the full game , which many centres struggle against . Just seems to be out of favour on here at the minute, and like a lot on here , people jump on the bandwagon instead of having their own opinion .

Beat me to it. In the game, he lost control at a PTB and then there was the offload to Lane which Jordan knocked on. Other than that he ran the ball in regularly and made, it appeared, a lot of post contact metres. I really do think he could do a Watkins and transition well into the back row

straight red for me
the more you watch it the worse it looks

lets hope now Griffin has gone to Wakefield she can move onto the Wakefield forum

Carlos has to be destined for the second row.
he is a good defender and deceptively strong and can beat a defender one on one with good footwork

When you see how well Griff developed in the second row, it does seem a logical move for Carlos to do the same. He has both strength and speed.

Think Carlos would be very similar to Watkins in the second row, and for him it was a move that really re-ignited his career

If the rumours are true about what happened in Beverley on Sunday night then it seems Willie Peters is really passing down his knowledge to his players

Harsh on Carlos to say he's having an awful season. I don't think people realise how much coming back from such a serious injury takes out of you both physically and mentally.
Look at Griffin and Mcintosh and how long it has taken them to hit top form after suffering the same injuries plus Carlos has the added pressure of the captaincy.

Sounds like the big red machine got flattened

I wouldn't say Carlos has been awful I'd say it just seems noticeable that he hasn't been playing as well as he usually does. As you rightly say he is coming back after an injury & the same one that saw McIntosh and Griffin take time to come back from.

Conversely is it the fact that Scott has now started to show a good and consistent run of form that has highlighted this more so? This for me is a positive that there is genuine competition for the spots in question and that TS has shown if you aren't performing in not just game situations but in training also then you will be sat or in the reserves to focus.

Carlos has very rarely if ever let us down and don't think he'll start doing so now but the pressure is on with the performances of others.

With Griffin gone what is concerning is the poor form of Lane in a position we are not exactly flush with in terms of quality especially with Savelios injury concerns. Think Staveley has to start getting game time and it may also be an option as others have said to look at Carlos in to the SR.

Has two failed HIA's in 12 hours ever happened before?