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Quote: Chris71 "

Very gracious of you.

I get the feeling we are being very cautious with knocks so far this year, which is fair enough with it being early days but its leading some very disjointed teams.

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Tongue in cheek. If we can keep the Saints winning marging to less than 44 points then its an improvement on last week. (But I'm not holding my breath).

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Quote: scarrie "If you're looking for minimal changes then Cator for Lane and maybe Gardiner for either Taylor or Evans.

If wholesale then something like
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Unfortunately I don't think my we can go with a Mcintosh Barron right hand side, we will get crucified.

Think we have to stick with Griffin, move cator into the backrow.

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Quote: scarrie "Very gracious of you.

I get the feeling we are being very cautious with knocks so far this year, which is fair enough with it being early days but its leading some very disjointed teams.'"


Yes certainly seems to be a very cautious approach being taken and the lack of any real reserve fixtures is hampering the return to fitness of injured players as like Ligi & Dre they came straight back in to SL action.

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Quote: Dave K. "Unfortunately I don't think my we can go with a Mcintosh Barron right hand side, we will get crucified.

Think we have to stick with Griffin, move cator into the backrow.'"


Truthfully, neither do I. I was just trying to come up with an alternative.

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As Chris said, very frustrating theres zero accountability with regards to squad selection in the wake of another embaressing performance how long is this going to continue?

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Quote: Rocknrolla69er "As Chris said, very frustrating theres zero accountability with regards to squad selection in the wake of another embaressing performance how long is this going to continue?'"


To be fair to Tony Smith we've fairly limited scope for wholesale changes bar playing half the academy side.
Lets see what the team actually ends up being before slating it too much.

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Quote: scarrie "To be fair to Tony Smith we've fairly limited scope for wholesale changes bar playing half the academy side.
Lets see what the team actually ends up being before slating it too much.'"



Tony Smith could quite easily drop Lane and Evans, very easily and send a message out......no need for half the academy. I also thimk judging by academy results we have a promising group that could be phased on during the course of the season.

Laidlaw>Evans
Cator> Lane

Would be two easy changes for this next game.

Im guessing Staveley/Balmforth/Litten wont be a million miles away too.

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Quote: Chris71 "I know McNamara tends to cop a lot of criticism and whilst I'd agree he won't likely be a top class player he is, as has been shown our best option at 6 (without moving Hoy) until Trueman is fit. He may not set the world on fire but he is steady and reliable, in fairness to the lad he is actually prepared to make a tackle, something that was in very short supply against Salford.'"


On that basis Chris may as well play Houghton there
McNamara is one of a number of our younger players like Scott and Wynne who will end up in the Championship

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Quote: scarrie "Truthfully, neither do I. I was just trying to come up with an alternative.'"


McIntosh has played a couple of games at right centre and did Ok so Barron on the wing with McIntosh at centre wouldnt bother me.
We have to move Griffin back to second row.He is now a joke as a centre

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Quote: bonaire "McIntosh has played a couple of games at right centre and did Ok so Barron on the wing with McIntosh at centre wouldnt bother me.
We have to move Griffin back to second row.He is now a joke as a centre'"


When? He's played every game at Hull on the wing. Maybe he had a handful of appearances at centre for Hudds but that's it.

He's been criticised for his defence. How do you think he'll go defending in a much harder position?

Like it or not Griffin is probably our best option right now

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I think some players will count themselves lucky we still have a few out injured.

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Quote: Rocknrolla69er "Tony Smith could quite easily drop Lane and Evans, very easily and send a message out......no need for half the academy. I also thimk judging by academy results we have a promising group that could be phased on during the course of the season.

Laidlaw>Evans
Cator> Lane

Would be two easy changes for this next game.

Im guessing Staveley/Balmforth/Litten wont be a million miles away too.'"


He well might, its easily plausible to do so given the squad. That was my point, probably best to see the team that runs out on Friday before deciding there is no accountability.

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Barron had an absolute nightmare game against saints last year, don't think it would be the best idea putting him in the first team for Friday's game

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Quote: bonaire "I know McNamara tends to cop a lot of criticism and whilst I'd agree he won't likely be a top class player he is, as has been shown our best option at 6 (without moving Hoy) until Trueman is fit. He may not set the world on fire but he is steady and reliable, in fairness to the lad he is actually prepared to make a tackle, something that was in very short supply against Salford.'"


On that basis Chris may as well play Houghton there
McNamara is one of a number of our younger players like Scott and Wynne who will end up in the Championship'"


If the game was only a 20 minute one I might agree re Houghton but it’s painfully obvious he can’t play much more than that. I’d hoped that spelling him we might have seen a bit more from him but we aren’t and he looks done.

Looking at this season so far we started off the season playing a high intensity game with quick line speed in attack and particularly in defence. In that first 40 minutes we over ran Cas. 2nd half we slowed down and went back to standing off and waiting and Cas then got on a roll. We did similar at Leeds played with some intensity and decent line speed but that again dropped off in the 2nd half. The last two games we have little no intensity and against Salford we were just pitiful in every aspect, no desire, far too passive and lazy.

Can’t see anything other than another humbling unless TS gets the message out to up the intensity for 0 to 80 mins. There are still far too many bang/below average players and too many that are prepared to throw the towel in.

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