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Quote: Kosh "Cullen walked, and the Wire board then appointed Lowes. It took quite a while longer before they got around to appointing Smith.

I can't see Agar walking away from the job no matter how many protests are held. Cullen was an ex player and a fan, so far more emotionally involved.'"


My point was that poor performances on the pitch are going to have no effect on the board whatsoever. I get the feeling they have decided after sacking the last 2 coaches relatively quickly that stability is key and if they wait long enough Agar will bring success. The only way to change this point of view is to hit them in the pocket and the fastest way to do that is with protests as it raises awareness and builds support.

The major hurdle to that is the attitude of the fans who think that protests and staying away means you are being disloyal when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.

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Quote: Robbo4 "My point was that poor performances on the pitch are going to have no effect on the board whatsoever. I get the feeling they have decided after sacking the last 2 coaches relatively quickly that stability is key and if they wait long enough Agar will bring success. The only way to change this point of view is to hit them in the pocket and the fastest way to do that is with protests as it raises awareness and builds support.

The major hurdle to that is the attitude of the fans who think that protests and staying away means you are being disloyal when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.'"


May I say , without trying to belittle your post that you could not be further from the truth about the loyalties of Mrs Hetherington , JR and RA.
I can say from personal experience of the lady that there is no bigger fan of FC and no one who wants them to do well more than KH , thats a fact!!
with regards the finances I can assure you Mrs Hetherington is not in need of the cash !!
JR watches every match like a fan in a suit and i have personally witnessed him screaming at players and refs who make mistakes just like all fans do .
And Mr Agar I can tell you is a very very calm , mild mannered individual who does not let on field issues get to him, he motors forward in a very VERY professional manner but i can assure you recent events have hurt him very much but unlike many on here , HE does not give up !!

Do not underestimate how much the sucess of the club means to the people who matter, it does not seem like it does to you all because you dont see them on a weekly basis ..

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also do you think that acting like halfwits in a protest will make players play better, or injuries not happen...
It will just make the whole scenario that much worse .. thankfully it will not happen because folk in RL do not do those things

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Quote: EXPRO "May I say , without trying to belittle your post that you could not be further from the truth about the loyalties of Mrs Hetherington , JR and RA.
I can say from personal experience of the lady that there is no bigger fan of FC and no one who wants them to do well more than KH , thats a fact!!
with regards the finances I can assure you Mrs Hetherington is not in need of the cash !!
JR watches every match like a fan in a suit and i have personally witnessed him screaming at players and refs who make mistakes just like all fans do .
And Mr Agar I can tell you is a very very calm , mild mannered individual who does not let on field issues get to him, he motors forward in a very VERY professional manner but i can assure you recent events have hurt him very much but unlike many on here , HE does not give up !!

Do not underestimate how much the sucess of the club means to the people who matter, it does not seem like it does to you all because you dont see them on a weekly basis ..'"



Shame they can't match that passion with ability

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Quote: Robbo4 "The major hurdle to that is the attitude of the fans who think that protests and staying away means you are being disloyal when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.'"

I have two issues with the idea of a protest...

1. It will look a bit silly the whole time we are still in the top 8.
2. It will achieve nothing as it will not involve enough fans.

Staying away strikes me as a high-risk strategy. Do it in sufficient numbers to make a point and you risk the financial well-being of the club. It then becomes a case of playing chicken with the board and hoping they blink first.

I have no view on how loyal or otherwise fans who want to protest or stay away are.

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Quote: EXPRO "May I say , without trying to belittle your post that you could not be further from the truth about the loyalties of Mrs Hetherington , JR and RA.
I can say from personal experience of the lady that there is no bigger fan of FC and no one who wants them to do well more than KH , thats a fact!!
with regards the finances I can assure you Mrs Hetherington is not in need of the cash !!
JR watches every match like a fan in a suit and i have personally witnessed him screaming at players and refs who make mistakes just like all fans do .
And Mr Agar I can tell you is a very very calm , mild mannered individual who does not let on field issues get to him, he motors forward in a very VERY professional manner but i can assure you recent events have hurt him very much but unlike many on here , HE does not give up !!

Do not underestimate how much the sucess of the club means to the people who matter, it does not seem like it does to you all because you dont see them on a weekly basis ..'"


I do not care about professional I want to go watch my team play entertaining rugby and look competitive...So far for nearly 3 season I have not seen this...These so called passionate professional people just seem quite happy to rob my money every fecking season!!

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Quote: Kosh "I have two issues with the idea of a protest...

1. It will look a bit silly the whole time we are still in the top 8..'"


BINGO!!
I know lets have a protest at being a better side in a better position in SL than last year !! great idea icon_lol.gif

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Quote: EXPRO "BINGO!!
I know lets have a protest at being a better side in a better position in SL than last year !! great idea We are in a virtually identical position to last year and playing no better.

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Quote: berrigans bitch "I do not care about professional I want to go watch my team play entertaining rugby and look competitive...So far for nearly 3 season I have not seen this...These so called passionate professional people just seem quite happy to rob my money every fecking season!!'"


Think carefully about how much money KH placed into limbo for so long to keep the club moving forwards!!

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Quote: EXPRO "May I say , without trying to belittle your post that you could not be further from the truth about the loyalties of Mrs Hetherington , JR and RA.
I can say from personal experience of the lady that there is no bigger fan of FC and no one who wants them to do well more than KH , thats a fact!!
with regards the finances I can assure you Mrs Hetherington is not in need of the cash !!
JR watches every match like a fan in a suit and i have personally witnessed him screaming at players and refs who make mistakes just like all fans do .
And Mr Agar I can tell you is a very very calm , mild mannered individual who does not let on field issues get to him, he motors forward in a very VERY professional manner but i can assure you recent events have hurt him very much but unlike many on here , HE does not give up !!

Do not underestimate how much the sucess of the club means to the people who matter, it does not seem like it does to you all because you dont see them on a weekly basis ..'"


If they were that bothered they would have recruited the best possible person for the most important job at the club. Head Coach!! Either they are more interested in the money or they are completely clueless when it comes to on-field matters. Its also not a FACT that "there is no bigger fan of FC and no one who wants them to do well more than KH".

The FACTS are that we are yet again underachieving in the areas that really matter to the fans. On the pitch. I couldn't give a toss if Agar is the most professional coach in the world, IMO he is not upto the job of making FC a top SL side. He has been given plenty of time to prove himself, well I'm afraid all we ever hear is excuse after excuse and I'm sick of it. The contract extension on April Fools Day was the last straw for me and proof that those at the top are willing to say anything to keep us quiet and they will do whatever the hell they want regardless.

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Quote: Kosh "We are in a virtually identical position to last year and playing no better.'"
, not quite but I see your sentiment Kosh however did we not say last year that without the thought process players on the park we would struggle, and here we are struggling again for that self same reason...
we could have the whole Australian test pack and the Kiwi backs in B&W but without creativity in the middle its still route one footie as we have now, one out drive and kick

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Quote: EXPRO "Think carefully about how much money KH placed into limbo for so long to keep the club moving forwards!!'"


I am not interested mate...I have as many fans have sunk and continue to sink a lot of money in order to keep the club moving forward...
Is our club moving forward...Bank balance yes...on the field NO!!

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Quote: EXPRO "also do you think that acting like halfwits in a protest will make players play better, or injuries not happen...
It will just make the whole scenario that much worse .. thankfully it will not happen because folk in RL do not do those things'"


Since they cant play much worse currently whats the difference? I would prefer Agar would make them play better but since that has been proved beyond his capabilities we have little other option.

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Now that is iconic status.

I bet all our board could not name a single FC player from 1997'"



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Quote: Robbo4 "If they were that bothered they would have recruited the best possible person for the most important job at the club. Head Coach!! Either they are more interested in the money or they are completely clueless when it comes to on-field matters. Its also not a FACT that "there is no bigger fan of FC and no one who wants them to do well more than KH".

The FACTS are that we are yet again underachieving in the areas that really matter to the fans. On the pitch. I couldn't give a toss if Agar is the most professional coach in the world, IMO he is not upto the job of making FC a top SL side. He has been given plenty of time to prove himself, well I'm afraid all we ever hear is excuse after excuse and I'm sick of it. The contract extension on April Fools Day was the last straw for me and proof that those at the top are willing to say anything to keep us quiet and they will do whatever the hell they want regardless.'"



There is no FACT when it comes down to Agar's ability as a head coach. The fans don't rate him but the board still seem to have belief in him. They may or may not be proved right but they have made a decision on what they think is good for Hull FC. They would not appoint the wrong guy because it was cheaper.

I would like Agar to go at the end of the season but some of the bollox written about the board at times is laughable.

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