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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "I think Cudjoe has shown he is capable of the job at full back and it would be a waste of money if Hudds signed Mathers. As for Tansey being all round player better than Mathers, I'm not sure but what I can say is that Mathers is a far better FB. Forget this 'pivot full back' we keep hearing about, dont think there is many in SL who can do that job to the standard required, well not English players.'"
Huddersfield have got another Hodgson as a replacement who looks pretty handy, they'd be wasting time and money getting Mathers. Mathers isn't a better fullback than Tansey, they are both dreadful in the position, and Leeds wanted neither as a fullback. The fashionable talk of "pivot" fullbacks is nonsense, the good ones have always chimed into the line and acted like a 2nd stand off. Because a fullback is poor at ball returns and can't catch the ball on the full does not make them a pivot, just a poor fullback.
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "I think Cudjoe has shown he is capable of the job at full back and it would be a waste of money if Hudds signed Mathers. As for Tansey being all round player better than Mathers, I'm not sure but what I can say is that Mathers is a far better FB. Forget this 'pivot full back' we keep hearing about, dont think there is many in SL who can do that job to the standard required, well not English players.'"
Why I am not suprised
Both pretty solid at the back, but are prone to the odd mistake, Tansey offers more in attack though, making him a better FB IMO.
the questions is would Hull be better with
1:Tansey
6:Horne
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1:Mathers
6:Tansey
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| Quote: Raggytash "Huddersfield have got another Hodgson as a replacement who looks pretty handy, they'd be wasting time and money getting Mathers. Mathers isn't a better fullback than Tansey, they are both dreadful in the position, and Leeds wanted neither as a fullback. The fashionable talk of "pivot" fullbacks is nonsense, the good ones have always chimed into the line and acted like a 2nd stand off. Because a fullback is poor at ball returns and can't catch the ball on the full does not make them a pivot, just a poor fullback.'"
This is what I dont get Tansey runs the ball back pretty well, and usually catchs the ball (on the other thread about Tansey i asked people to name the times Tansey has dropped the high ball apart from Friday, no-one has yet to answer the question.)
Also Leeds didnt choose to let mathers go, he choose to leave Leeds for the NRL, same with Tansey, who at the time was never going to play FB for Leeds with Webb there.
Everybody goes pn about Briscoe, but compare the stats of the 2 players, there isnt much between them. Tansey needs to improve his mistakes (Alot of thet is to do with him acting as an extra halfback with Long out), but apart from that he is better than Briscoe in about every area.
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| Quote: Dave K. "This is what I dont get Tansey runs the ball back pretty well, and usually catchs the ball (on the other thread about Tansey i asked people to name the times Tansey has dropped the high ball apart from Friday, no-one has yet to answer the question.)
Also Leeds didnt choose to let mathers go, he choose to leave Leeds for the NRL, same with Tansey, who at the time was never going to play FB for Leeds with Webb there.
Everybody goes pn about Briscoe, but compare the stats of the 2 players, there isnt much between them. Tansey needs to improve his mistakes (Alot of thet is to do with him acting as an extra halfback with Long out), but apart from that he is better than Briscoe in about every area.'"
fully agree dave, I don't think hull fans will be happy with a full back for the next 20 years.
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| Hull fans aint been happy with any full back since Briscoe left, what does that tell you?
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Hull fans aint been happy with any full back since Briscoe left, what does that tell you?'"
some hull fans rupert ,some.
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Hull fans aint been happy with any full back since Briscoe left, what does that tell you?'"
They haven't watched the highlights of the bradford v dobbins game from Sunday?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "They haven't watched the highlights of the bradford v dobbins game from Sunday?'"
Lol, has been very up and down so far this season, bit like the majority of the players, no consistency what so ever.
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Hull fans aint been happy with any full back since Briscoe left, what does that tell you?'"
Briscoe was/is was one of the most committed players in SL, bravery personified – that’s what I miss. Tansey has the ability to offer Hull far more from full back then Briscoe ever did, but the confidence has been completely knocked out of him.
It usually starts with a simple high kick, nothing special but enough to have our back three looking nervous for the rest of the game. Is there a team any poorer then Hull at defending kicks (especially bombs)? At one stage Whiting was isolated on his wing, defending a kick against 6 Wakey players, how does that happen?
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| Quote: Dr Hfuhruhurr "Briscoe was/is was one of the most committed players in SL, bravery personified – that’s what I miss. Tansey has the ability to offer Hull far more from full back then Briscoe ever did, but the confidence has been completely knocked out of him.'"
Briscoe's his try scoring record at your club was pretty good, wasn't it?
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Briscoe's his try scoring record at your club was pretty good, wasn't it?'"
Yes when he played in a good attacking side.
Briscoe is a great support player.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Yes when he played in a good attacking side.
Briscoe is a great support player.'"
when asked about his try score he said he just follows rich Horne about!
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Briscoe's his try scoring record at your club was pretty good, wasn't it?'"
It was very good
so what has justin done to coach it out of him
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| So he was top notch in defence, brave, very good under a high ball, good positioning, 'great support' and scored loads of try's for you.
And some still want a 'pivot full back' lol
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "So he was top notch in defence, brave, very good under a high ball, good positioning, 'great support' and scored loads of try's for you.
And some still want a 'pivot full back' lol'"
We need a pivotal full back to play a prop at 13 which is Agars choice. (and was Sharps choice etc)
Sadly Briscoe doesnt fit that mould.
We'd be even worse than we are now with Briscoe in our side rather than Tansey.
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