There were some good individual performances.
I'm particularly pleased about Staveley and Martin's performances yesterday, they look like they could make the grade for SL.

But unfortunately aside from good individual performances it again was not a good team performance.

I'll take losing if we play well but yesterday just felt like a hollow victory. Even the sight of 2 points in our league position didn't fully dispel how poor an afternoon it was for us, struggling to beat a newly promoted Championship level team.

I'll take the win but I need to see an improvement in all facets of our play and a massive improvement in our discipline.

and we were getting on so well
I am looking for the positves in our play like structure,fluent attack and dogged defence and i see nada.
I also have to question leaving a player on the bench.Whats the point? That surely has to be a coaching error including him in the first place given he left Hoy and Balmforth out.
You know my thoughts on Walker as i advocated on here we should sign him when he became available and Ashworth has surpassed my expectations but to laud and suggest we sign the recent loan duo as one or two are suggesting is crazy and will make little difference to where we are likely to finish in the League this season.
the young players Stavely and Martin deserve to keep their places in the team

Id brought up the bit about sao shouldnt of been given the ball there, i cant bag morgan smith too much as he gives his all, unfortunatley hes not the level of organising halfback we need. HUge drop off in level from Clifford.

Its been scattergun recruitment on a poor budget, so weve make does and square pegs in round holes.

Next seasons massive for recruitment , il keep saying it no covid handcuffs, big income from sponsers, corperate, merchandise and passes lets have it spent on marquees now

I thought he had a decent game, the ball steal near the end he was very unlucky it went against him.

Good points . We do agree on more things this year. But work in progress

Because sport is a funny old thing, weve had youngsters coming in, a shattered spine, players having brain farts and also had alot of players missing. We are also in round 3, nobody is anywhere near there best.

Im not saying the situation is ideal but I struggle to see how so many of you cant see it. How can you employ one of the competitions most successful coaches and give him a shoestring budget. Hes had to sign players nobody else wants. If he had his way im sure the recruitment would be miles better but he has such a small budget to work with.

I get people may think his time is up and he may not have what it takes to win a grand final again. But for people to suggest he doesnt know how to teach the basic fundamentals of the game with his track record is completely barmy.

So far we've given away the most penalties of any team, the most red cards, third highest missed tackles and third highest errors in the competition, that to me shows a team that isn't picking up the basic fundamentals of the game

Or is it down to the players being unfit, lazy and/or dumb?

Maybe, I know stats can be manipulated to suit a point of view but those are pretty damning stats to argue against.
At the end of the day the buck stops with the coach for failings, if players are lazy or unfit then that’s on the coaching team for failing to prepare them over the pre season.

Even taking in to all the hurdles and obstacles you’d have expected a Coach of Smiths experience would have made more of an impact in the basic aspects, discipline and structures and being honest it’s difficult to see much change since Hodgson. You don’t have to have a team of quality players for them to do basics such as line speed which we still seem to have trouble with getting past pedestrian.

We all know and accept we are.where we are but that doesn’t mean things shouldn’t be questioned when nothing seems to be changing on the field which isn’t affected by budget and quality of dquad.

Must be something in the air as "The Donald" thought Biden was Obama yesterday.

I don't think Tony is there yet.

I agree.

I think it should also be remembered that one team was playing yesterday with an enormous amount of pressure on them and having to win. Expected to win! This despite confidence being low?

The other team had no pressure at all and a freedom to try things and hope they come off.

One senior player said to me last season that the atmosphere at home games can get quite “toxic” when things are not going right and it affects players.

Now I’m in no way happy with how we played but think the pressure plus the many factors which seem to be going against us at the moment (injuries, suspensions, bounce of the ball etc) contributed to the overall performance?

I think that's a lame excuse. When the player said "things are not going right" is the fans response after the players have thrown the towel in early after capitulating. Ellis mentioned it in his book. I can except defeat because we are not good enough but not through lack of effort.

I never boo the team because it's counter productive but I can understand why some other fans do after some of the dross we have served up in recent years.

Kept up my 100% tipping record for the season on Hull FC matches. For me a minor miracle!

I will hazard a guess that your 100% record will be intact after the Catalan game!

I agree with Lane’s pass. Tidy and effective.