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| It was a lazy grab, no malice in it. He did catch him on the chin so the yellow was justified, but if a Hull player saw red or got banned for that I'd be very annoyed.
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| Quote: GrahamBray "I've looked at it a few times, wasn't really malicious and I'd be aggrieved if a Hull player copped a ban for that, but, as you rightly say, someone with Watts' record would have been red carded and banned, so there is no consistency in the process. It should not be a panel review, it should be the ref's call- yellow card
Cullen is definitely involved. I recall him being on Sky last year (or maybe year before, I forget) trying to explain how it all worked. I think I ended up more confused.
It's probably all changed since then, especially as this year's bans bear no resemblance to last year's.
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| Quote: GrahamBray "Quote: GrahamBray "Somebody like Liam Watts would have been sent off and banned, no consistency, no wonder fans are shaking their heads at some of these findings'"
I've looked at it a few times, wasn't really malicious and I'd be aggrieved if a Hull player copped a ban for that, but, as you rightly say, someone with Watts' record would have been red carded and banned, so there is no consistency in the process. It should not be a panel review, it should be the ref's call- yellow card
I'm surprised SKD escaped without a ban as whilst I think it was worthy of a yellow and nothing more based on bans handed out this year for direct contact with the head, this is just another that highlights the inconsistency in the MRP as other players have done very similar and yet got 1 match ban. There is simply no transparency in the system and it just seems to differ one week to the next and depending on who is sitting on the panel that particular week.
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| Quote: GrahamBray "I've looked at it a few times, wasn't really malicious and I'd be aggrieved if a Hull player copped a ban for that, but, as you rightly say, someone with Watts' record would have been red carded and banned, so there is no consistency in the process. It should not be a panel review, it should be the ref's call- yellow card
The coach didn't know if it was his leg or his head,probably his head, seems to have got a bit big lately
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| Quote: GrahamBray "Parcell should get a one match ban for knocking out 'ickle Mikey , what a joke that was . Made me chuckle anyway.'"
It was Jez Litten not Parcell but I agree. It was hilarious
Served the petulant grub right.
He should be penalised far more than he is for second effort in the tackle. Not sure how he gets away with it all the time?
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| Quote: DABHAND "The coach didn't know if it was his leg or his head,probably his head, seems to have got a bit big lately'"
The more you watch the more it looks as though Lewis is actually trying to headbutt Taylor when you look at the way he moves his head so far back and to the left, its not the sort of movement you see when players are trying to get up quickly.
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| Quote: scarrie "Cullen is definitely involved. I recall him being on Sky last year (or maybe year before, I forget) trying to explain how it all worked. I think I ended up more confused.
It's probably all changed since then, especially as this year's bans bear no resemblance to last year's.'"
Each match is watched in full by a member of the disciplinary panel to identify any incidents which are then considered by the panel on the Monday morning.
The panel is made up of up to four members of the full panel who are currently
Paul Cullen (chair)
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| Always great to win the Derby.
Thought we were poor compared with recent performances, but Rovers were awful. However, we improved in the second half and fully deserved our win.
As we continue to sort our squad we really need to improve our discipline. We must give away the most Set Restarts in the league; and we need to cut out our PTB errors.
It’s great to see our player’s improving. Darnell has been improving each week and a great off load by Cam Scott to Swifty. Loved the cry of ‘Forward’ from their East Stand despite Swift receiving it a yard behind Scott.
I think we have a real chance of making the 6th place, which would be quite an achievement from were we where at Easter.
I think Rovers season is over. If they manage to beat Wigan, their record 50-0 Wembley defeat could be under threat. Regardless, I think we’ll finish above them this season, which wouldn’t be an achievement but just funny considering all the noise that came out of East Hull during their 7 week ‘Golden Era’ in March/April
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| Quote: mwindass "Amazed SKD didn't pick up a ban.'"
Sinbin right for me wasn’t worth a ban IMO
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| Quote: Ellam "Sinbin right for me wasn’t worth a ban IMO'"
I dunno, the way things are being penalised and clamped down on with head contact, I'm surprised nothing more has happened.
I thought he'd get a game ban.
Haven't had the courage to watch the game back again though
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Well, I reckon if you were a neutral is was probably a shocking game to watch. In the first half I thought we looked like a bunch of players who had never met before. I was really surprised and disappointed by the lack of cohesion we showed in attack. Second half we found a little bit more quality but it was hardly a stellar performance. Rovers were just poor from start to finish. If they don't reach the CC final their season is done imo. They look like us in many previous years, started well, imploding at the back end of the season.
All that said I'm thrilled to play that badly and still get a result. It's a cliche, but good teams know how to win ugly, and that was certainly ugly. Looking at the respective fixtures of ourselves, Leeds, Salford and Rovers over the next month, you have to say we are in a decent position to make a playoff push. Although playing against teams who are fighting for survival brings its own challenges of course.
There were some positives from the game (aside from the result). I thought Cam Scott was again excellent. His improvement under Smith has been enormous. The same with McIntosh. He's making much fewer errors, which I think is probably a confidence thing on the back of a good run of form. But the thing about him I'm most pleased with is how much stronger he looks in collision. He used to get dominated and pushed back almost every carry. Now he actually looks like a bit of a handful for defences. I'm not sure if Smith has worked on his body position, his footwork at the line, or if he's simply been working hard in the gym (he does look physically bigger) but something has obviously changed and he looks a miles better player for it.
Houghton continued his good form with another very solid performance, and he showed his versatility when we had to reshuffle after Hoy's injury. Credit to Clifford on this front too who I thought looked really assured at full back. The guy is clearly just a very good all round rugby league player and if he is leaving at the end of the year he's a huge loss.
A mention for Dwyer too. I've been really critical of him, and it's been fully deserved, but I thought he had a lot of success yesterday sniping around the ruck and I thought we looked more dangerous when he was on. He also managed to keep his dumb decisions and wild passed to a minimum.
Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Downsides. Tuimavave is having an awful season and Smith needs to have a real think about what to do with him. On form, when Sutcliffe is fit, it has to be him and Scott as the centres'" . So do you move Carlos into the back row, or drop him completely? The latter would be a bold call. Lane also continues to be a problem. He's offering nothing and is a weak leak defensively. The amount of times Trueman bails him out is crazy, it should be the other way around! Thank god he's such a good defender for a half.
A win is a win, but it's given us some things to think about. The important thing is that we once again dug deep and found a way to grind out a result. On to Cas.'"
Where is Barista?
Laughed at me when I said the same earlier in the thread, without offering a reasoned explanation for her churlish response.
Now a few posters are saying the same thing she's no where to be seen, probably getting her excuses ready for when Cas beat us.
The squad has to be picked on form and not past reputation.
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| Quote: mwindass "I dunno, the way things are being penalised and clamped down on with head contact, I'm surprised nothing more has happened.
I thought he'd get a game ban.
Haven't had the courage to watch the game back again though'"
They have apparently used the excuse that first contact was on the shoulder and bounced up
Need to watch again as don’t remember that.
Certainly an excuse to use for the future though
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| Quote: Bombed Out "Where is Barista?
Laughed at me when I said the same earlier in the thread, without offering a reasoned explanation for her churlish response.
Now a few posters are saying the same thing she's no where to be seen, probably getting her excuses ready for when Cas beat us.
The squad has to be picked on form and not past reputation.'"
He’s not having a great season by his accounts but has by no means been awful. I’d argue that Scott is above him in terms of current form.
If you look at stats:
- their average gain is about the same but Scott’s will be padded out by his time on the wing
- Carlos has more tries and they have same assists
- Carlos 0.27 clean breaks a game scott 0.25
- Carlos 103m per game Scott 69
- Carlos 1 error a game Scott 0.56
- Carlos 1.6 missed tackles a game scott 1.3
- Carlos 13.6 tackles a game scott 6.5
-Carlos 0.5 pens a game Scott 0
Carlos having a stinker is statistically very similar to Scott been immense. This is Carlos off a very major injury and since he’s come back he’s had some very good games and some very poor ones. The only real statistic Scott smashes him on are errors and pens of which most of Carlos’ have come in 2-3 very poor games.
He’s willing to chance his hand more than Scott at the minute which does result in more errors but also creates more. The stats also show Carlos gets through a hell of a lot more work
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Quote: Bombed Out "Where is Barista?
Laughed at me when I said the same earlier in the thread, without offering a reasoned explanation for her churlish response.
Now a few posters are saying the same thing she's no where to be seen, probably getting her excuses ready for when Cas beat us.
The squad has to be picked on form and not past reputation.'"
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Quote: Bombed Out "Where is Barista?
Laughed at me when I said the same earlier in the thread, without offering a reasoned explanation for her churlish response.
Now a few posters are saying the same thing she's no where to be seen, probably getting her excuses ready for when Cas beat us.
The squad has to be picked on form and not past reputation.'"
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&author_id=66735&start=807
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