Isn't that pretty much the opposite of a flowing game?

Tit.

FFS its the first time Agar's really ever come out and said anything regarding a ref, unlike others who've really had a 'go',

not stop start with constant whistle blowers, both teams guilty of laying on

The point being that a really good ref would ping the first couple of offences, maybe sin bin a persistent offender, and stop the laying on without having to blow up all the time.

You can't just stop enforcing rules because you want the game to 'flow'. And in the case of the ruck it's counter-productive anyway.

which refs do that these days?

its not so much the ref, admitedly most of them are c**p, it the guidelines they are given to follow. its obviously been pushed down from the top to allow laying on, what with all the surrender calls etc we hear. for the first time in quite a while i left early tonight because there is litteraly nothing going on in the games due to the slow play. any new supporters we attracted through the offer tonight will not exactly of had there minds blown will they. bottom line is untill refs are told by cummins or whoever to change it we are going to be stuck with this slow and boring rugby

Seems Dennis Moore has the same opinion that refs are killing the game allowing this extra wrestle

It's killed a lot of games already this season. Tonight was a pretty dull affair, and it really needn't have been.

i cant believe how slow the ground is at the minute. I play amature n our refs dont give us as long to work the ground as super league refs are. Theres no advantage gained by the big guys like omeley winning the collision anymore because defenders just lay there staring at the ref untill hes gone through the surrender held get up ruetine. Im waiting for the day when a player falls asleep on the guy he tackled

Anyone watch the Widnes/fax game? The ptb was so much faster to SL. The game is becoming a borefest and it needs sorting very quickly.

Fully agree - it needs sorting out.