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| Smith needs to be given the time to mold his team which we all know isn't going to happen over night .
Theres also the financial side that is restricting us making any quality additions .
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| Quote: Cuddleclub "I’m sick of him whinging about the Covid loan, he’s the only owner who’s constantly talking about it.
9000 passes
Record sponsorship
Record shirt deal
£1+ million merchandise
Super league money
Apparently highest ever corporate turnover last night
20k+ crowd last night
Yet we churn out that squad, it’s simply not good enough.'"
Other clubs werent in the situation of having to pay expensive rent on a stadium despite not being able to play and then later play with crowd restrictions. Wigan and Hudds rent a stadium but have rich owners.
The only other club that was in a similar situation was Salford and look at their finances.
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| Quote: B0NES "Smith needs to be given the time to mold his team which we all know isn't going to happen over night .
Theres also the financial side that is restricting us making any quality additions .'"
I appreciate this but he's now two off seasons in, and not sure if I've seen much improvement compared to the Hodgson era
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| In Smith's defence, he hasn't been given the resources, no marquee signings, no mid season signings. Alot less cap than Hodgson, plus he inherited the mess both Radford and Hodgson did.
Saying all that, I'd expect by the end of yhe season to see some improvements.
I'd honestly be happy at the moment if he could sort out our awful discipline.
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| Quote: Dave K. "In Smith's defence, he hasn't been given the resources, no marquee signings, no mid season signings. Alot less cap than Hodgson, plus he inherited the mess both Radford and Hodgson did.
Saying all that, I'd expect by the end of yhe season to see some improvements.
I'd honestly be happy at the moment if he could sort out our awful discipline.'"
He talked about it last season, he spoke about it in preseason but yet our discipline has not improved.
It's schoolboy stuff why can't he sort it?
Getting pinged for not square at marker, laying on, offsides.
All basics that haven't been corrected or eradicated.
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| When you change a manager you do it to look for improvement and to change things that aren't working.
We have seen none of that and things have steadily got worse. We are no further on than when Radford left, anyone can see that.
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| Good coaches get the best out of their players.. ie Brian Smith, with a bog standard team.. just my opinion.. last night was just unaccepable.
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| Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "Losing players to suspension and injury this is Dan Tomlinson's line up against Warrington;
Starting XIII
No offence but that must be up there with our weakest ever SL line ups.
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| Quote: Ellam "Hull made more in corporate last night than anyone ever has at the MKM BOTH SUITES SOLD OUT, 20000 fans in the ground, think the owner is having our pants down'"
100%.. Nowhere near cap. 500k under is the figure i've heard.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "He talked about it last season, he spoke about it in preseason but yet our discipline has not improved.
It's schoolboy stuff why can't he sort it?
Getting pinged for not square at marker, laying on, offsides.
All basics that haven't been corrected or eradicated.'"
Agree, I don't mind them giving the odd offside penalty away if the line speed and intensity is there but it wasn't it was through being gassed because we gave away so much ball and so many repeat sets they couldn't frontload any energy for strong defence.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Think our pack could actually be ok, if (big if) we can sort out the discipline. Thought yellow card aside Ese Ese was good (can't see his stats on the SL site), Sao offloaded loads and Ashworth was decent. Ock was hit and miss did some good things, but also bad moments. Can't judge him on one game.
Our real issue in our backs and halfbacks, backs aren't big or strong enough, dominated nearly every tackle, although thought Martin did well. But having 3 out of 4 starting backs doesn't help. Walker is like Briscoe, all heart, but not sure he has the creative skills to be a top fullback.
Halfbacks are a real issue, desperately need Trueman back, can't fully judge Brown on that game, but I'd be looking to play him 9.
IMO our best pivots would be
1 Hoy
6 Trueman
7 Smith
9/13 Brown/Houghton
Let's be honest with our best side we are at best in about 8th place, a few injuries like we have already 10th/11th.
Not 100% convinced by Smith, but can't see anyone better, he has to improve us this year and get recruitment right.
Could really do with Pearson finding some money from somewhere to bring in 3 quality overseas players and a couple of domestic ones.'"
I know we are running with no halfbacks but to have a backline of McIntosh,Scott,litten and Martin must surely make us the laughing stock of S/L
Tuimavave and Sutcliffe on paper sounds a bit better but in reality they are no worldbeaters
I also have to say im not convinced with Smith.he is too laid back.We need passion that drives the players and he seems unable to stop the on field indiscipline.
Smith was in his past years a top coach but are we seeing any improvement on the field since he arrived and you have to say no.
Think the game has passed him by
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| Quote: bonaire "I know we are running with no halfbacks but to have a backline of McIntosh,Scott,litten and Martin must surely make us the laughing stock of S/L
Tuimavave and Sutcliffe on paper sounds a bit better but in reality they are no worldbeaters
I also have to say im not convinced with Smith.he is too laid back.We need passion that drives the players and he seems unable to stop the on field indiscipline.
Smith was in his past years a top coach but are we seeing any improvement on the field since he arrived and you have to say no.
Think the game has passed him by'"
He took a club to the top six and eighty minutes from a Grand Final three seasons ago.
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| Quote: RockNRolla "100%.. Nowhere near cap. 500k under is the figure i've heard.'"
Well that might go halfway towards our last year loss
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| Quote: weaver93 "Agree 1m%
Our basic catch and pass was appalling, whoever is coaching the attack, needs to seriously improve.'"
doesnt matter as the buck stops at Smith
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| Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "He knew what was coming and pulled a sickie.'"
same as Tuimavave
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