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| Quote: thehullwhitestar "I have actually voted UKIP in the past. I agree with some of their opinions (not all), just as I agree with some of the BNP's (not all).'"
and thats the beauty of living here in the uk we have that choice pal
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| Quote: GODS UNDERTAKER "and thats the beauty of living here in the uk we have that choice pal'"
I totally agree mate !!!
That freedom of choice and the ability to question our government's policies with regard to immigration etc. seem to stir up a hell of a lot of people who then start quoting political correctness and labelling people with the "R" word.
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| Many people in Britain are "Realists" not "Rascists" .
They can see that immigration is out of control . Many migrants are coming to the UK to claim off our welfare state. These people are economic migrants and in no way bring anything to British Society .
Far right parties like the BNP feed off this and are now trying to change their image as the Party for the White working class.
In truth it is the White working class who are at fault . How many of them are sponging off the State ? We have a 3rd of 4th generation of "White" trash who have never worked and will never contribute anything.
Many legal migrants have come across to the UK to do the jobs that our own professional unemployed won`t do.
There is room in Britain for a Nationalist party but that is not the Fascist BNP. Our fore Fathers fought and died against the threat of National Socialism that the BNP peddle.
Many non Whites are proud to be British . They fought and died in both world wars. They are fighting in Afghanistan.
The BNP oppose ex Gurkhas being given British residency after serving the Crown .
Griffin was shown up for being the idiot he is. An ex National Front neo Nazi scumbag.
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She got the flippin' hip slide hypno sex siren in my head
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| Quote: GODS UNDERTAKER "never said i was the author but did say it was a good plan to which I added a few bits I thought was relevant, best read back sir but isnt that a deposition of blocking free speach !! whole point on this thread i believe!!'"
You said in the opening paragraph..."this is my plan"
that, to me, sounds a lot like claiming it was your plan.
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| Quote: Neil HFC "You said in the opening paragraph..."this is my plan"
that, to me, sounds a lot like claiming it was your plan.'"
it doesnt really matter that much does it, it would have been much easier to simply read the post as a point of view other than a rallying point for an argument!!
simples
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| Quote: HFC Boy "Many people in Britain are "Realists" not "Rascists" .
They can see that immigration is out of control . Many migrants are coming to the UK to claim off our welfare state. These people are economic migrants and in no way bring anything to British Society .
Far right parties like the BNP feed off this and are now trying to change their image as the Party for the White working class.
In truth it is the White working class who are at fault . How many of them are sponging off the State ? We have a 3rd of 4th generation of "White" trash who have never worked and will never contribute anything.
Many legal migrants have come across to the UK to do the jobs that our own professional unemployed won`t do.
There is room in Britain for a Nationalist party but that is not the Fascist BNP. Our fore Fathers fought and died against the threat of National Socialism that the BNP peddle.
Many non Whites are proud to be British . They fought and died in both world wars. They are fighting in Afghanistan.
The BNP oppose ex Gurkhas being given British residency after serving the Crown .
Griffin was shown up for being the idiot he is. An ex National Front neo Nazi scumbag.'"
Griffin was set up and every clear thinking person in the UK can see it, I'm totally opposed to any racism however thursday nights programme was embarrassing. There was no reasoned debate, even when the conservative was shown to be anti gay marriage Dimbleby quickly changed the subject back to "Let's slate Nick Griffin" and totally ignored the prejudiced remark made by her. I'll never vote BNP but staged verbal assaults like that one on thursday night are a joke and may turn some people in favour of Griffin and his party.
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| Quote: HFC Boy "Many people in Britain are "Realists" not "Rascists" .
They can see that immigration is out of control . Many migrants are coming to the UK to claim off our welfare state. These people are economic migrants and in no way bring anything to British Society .'"
Questioning levels of immigration doesn't mean someone is a racist. Although there is a lot of misinformation about, particularly regarding the claiming of benefits. It's now extremely difficult to get into the UK if you don't have the skills required to find work, and you are not automatically entitled to benefits if you can't find it either. Some of this misinformation comes from the confusion between immigrants and asylum seekers - two completely different issues requiring different policies.
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Many people who claim to be immigration realists are, in fact, plain racists. They blame foreigners, especially those with dark skins, for all the ills afflicting our society without even considering that many 'ethnic British' layabouts and scumbags have been causing problems for years. This is classic racism of the kind that the Nazi party tapped into to fuel Hitler's rise to power, and Griffin is attempting to channel the same ignorant fury for similar purposes.
I do blame the mainstream parties for shying away from a proper, reasoned debate on immigration policy and for failing to counter the tide of misinformation and outright lies that fuel discontent. I also blame the media, or at least certain sections of it, for propagating this misinformation and exaggerating the problem simply to increase ratings and sell copy.
Maybe the rise in popularity of the BNP will finally shake our mainstream politicians out of their complacency and make them realise that there are issues that can't just be dodged - they have to be properly debated.
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| Quote: Kosh " 'ethnic British' '"
Bur what IS "ethnic British" ?
We're a nation of mongrels, surely?
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| Quote: Kosh "Questioning levels of immigration doesn't mean someone is a racist. Although there is a lot of misinformation about, particularly regarding the claiming of benefits. It's now extremely difficult to get into the UK if you don't have the skills required to find work, and you are not automatically entitled to benefits if you can't find it either. Some of this misinformation comes from the confusion between immigrants and asylum seekers - two completely different issues requiring different policies.
However...
Many people who claim to be immigration realists are, in fact, plain racists. They blame foreigners, especially those with dark skins, for all the ills afflicting our society without even considering that many 'ethnic British' layabouts and scumbags have been causing problems for years. This is classic racism of the kind that the Nazi party tapped into to fuel Hitler's rise to power, and Griffin is attempting to channel the same ignorant fury for similar purposes.
I do blame the mainstream parties for shying away from a proper, reasoned debate on immigration policy and for failing to counter the tide of misinformation and outright lies that fuel discontent. I also blame the media, or at least certain sections of it, for propagating this misinformation and exaggerating the problem simply to increase ratings and sell copy.
Maybe the rise in popularity of the BNP will finally shake our mainstream politicians out of their complacency and make them realise that there are issues that can't just be dodged - they have to be properly debated.'"
There is serious problem in head-counting.
One of the last acts of the previous conservative government was to stop counting the number of Europeans leaving the UK. This mickey-mouse bunch then stopped counting the numbers of non-Europeans leaving the UK.
So basically, we have absolutely no idea who or how many are here.
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| Quote: Kosh "Questioning levels of immigration doesn't mean someone is a racist. Although there is a lot of misinformation about, particularly regarding the claiming of benefits. It's now extremely difficult to get into the UK if you don't have the skills required to find work, and you are not automatically entitled to benefits if you can't find it either. Some of this misinformation comes from the confusion between immigrants and asylum seekers - two completely different issues requiring different policies.
However...
Many people who claim to be immigration realists are, in fact, plain racists. They blame foreigners, especially those with dark skins, for all the ills afflicting our society without even considering that many 'ethnic British' layabouts and scumbags have been causing problems for years. This is classic racism of the kind that the Nazi party tapped into to fuel Hitler's rise to power, and Griffin is attempting to channel the same ignorant fury for similar purposes.
I do blame the mainstream parties for shying away from a proper, reasoned debate on immigration policy and for failing to counter the tide of misinformation and outright lies that fuel discontent. I also blame the media, or at least certain sections of it, for propagating this misinformation and exaggerating the problem simply to increase ratings and sell copy.
Maybe the rise in popularity of the BNP will finally shake our mainstream politicians out of their complacency and make them realise that there are issues that can't just be dodged - they have to be properly debated.'"
If one had a hat on, one would take it off...
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| Quote: WormInHand "Bur what IS "ethnic British" ?
We're a nation of mongrels, surely?'"
I agree, which is why I put the phrase in quote marks. It's something that the BNP and their sympatisers like to bandy about, but it's actually a meaningless phrase.
Griffin actually referred to it as the people who were here 17,000 years ago at one point.
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| Quote: cod'ead "There is serious problem in head-counting.
One of the last acts of the previous conservative government was to stop counting the number of Europeans leaving the UK. This mickey-mouse bunch then stopped counting the numbers of non-Europeans leaving the UK.
So basically, we have absolutely no idea who or how many are here.'"
Madness, isn't it? Especially as with the computerisation of border controls there is absolutely no reason why it can't be done relatively easily.
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2051.jpg The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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| Quote: Kosh "Madness, isn't it? Especially as with the computerisation of border controls there is absolutely no reason why it can't be done relatively easily.'"
Especially given the current administration's prosensity for control. Surely accurate figures would do much to quash the misinformation perpetuated in certain media?
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There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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