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Quote: carl_spackler "Cricket score is OTT, admittedly. But I honestly think several sides would/could have managed 40+ against either of tonight's sides.'"


Don't agree - neither side defended that badly regardless of the errors. There were 2 or 3 chances that each side coughed but maybe other sides would have suffered with the allegedly 'dewy' conditions in the same way.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Cricket score is OTT, admittedly. But I honestly think several sides would/could have managed 40+ against either of tonight's sides.'"


We will never know, so they is no right or wrong answer here.

Personally I don't think they would have, saying we would have scored far less is probably a more accurate statement in my eyes as not many teams would have self destructed like Leeds did in that last quarter.

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Quote: Staffs FC "Don't agree - neither side defended that badly regardless of the errors. There were 2 or 3 chances that each side coughed but maybe other sides would have suffered with the allegedly 'dewy' conditions in the same way.'"


Bearing in mind that had Rankin had his kicking boots on we'd have hit 30, you don't think, say, Wigan could have maybe managed just 2-3 more tries than we did from the opportunities we bombed?

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It depends how Wigan were playing I suppose. Certainly not guaranteed.

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Quote: Staffs FC "It depends how Wigan were playing I suppose. Certainly not guaranteed.'"


Hence why my first post on the subject said a 'firing' Wigan/Wire/Hudds.

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Quote: pmarrow "We will never know, so they is no right or wrong answer here.

Personally I don't think they would have, saying we would have scored far less is probably a more accurate statement in my eyes as not many teams would have self destructed like Leeds did in that last quarter.'"


Fair enough, we'll have to agree to disagree.

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Fair enough. I guess a firing FC put 18 points on without reply in the last 20 thankfully so all was well.

In general it's not unusual for FC fans to try to find ways of playing down a win or finding reasons why it wasn't a very good win so to speak. I'm not sure the big team's fans are that bothered if they have a scratchy result - they just move on to the next game. Not aiming this at you specifically but it's noticeable that FC fans like to play down a victory if at all possible. We were poor for 50 mins tonight as were Leeds but imagine how many games that other sides play in that are the same. I'm not sure they worry as much about how bad the opposition were as we seem to do.

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Quote: Staffs FC "Fair enough. I guess a firing FC put 18 points on without reply in the last 20 thankfully so all was well.

In general it's not unusual for FC fans to try to find ways of playing down a win or finding reasons why it wasn't a very good win so to speak. I'm not sure the big team's fans are that bothered if they have a scratchy result - they just move on to the next game. Not aiming this at you specifically but it's noticeable that FC fans like to play down a victory if at all possible. We were poor for 50 mins tonight as were Leeds but imagine how many games that other sides play in that are the same. I'm not sure they worry as much about how bad the opposition were as we seem to do.'"


Appreciate that point, I'm just not wanting to get carried away by tonight as Leeds are on a poor run and the first half was not good.

I'm not actually saying that the defences were bad, just that the opportunities were there for both sides to score good points both first and second half. Cough up that much possession, position, and a few penalties against a top side and usually they'll have the execution to make you pay, it takes impeccable defence to hold out.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Appreciate that point, I'm just not wanting to get carried away by tonight as Leeds are on a poor run and the first half was not good.'"

Nobody is in any danger of getting carried away. Neither is it necessary to downplay our performance nor invent imaginary scenarios where things might have gone really badly in order to view the performance in proper perspective.

I'm constantly surprised at the number of FC fans who wholeheartedly embrace alternate Universe theory.

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Quote: Staffs FC "To be honest I thought Azza had a bit of a stinker but good luck to him at Widnes been a good honest servant for us.'"


Agreed.
One of Bombers better signings and one of our more consistent larkers the last three seasons.
Au revoir Azza.

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Quote: WIZEB "Agreed.
One of Bombers better signings and one of our more consistent larkers the last three seasons.
Au revoir Azza.'"

agar signing surely?

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Quote: Jake the Peg "agar signing surely?'"


Correct. icon_surprised.gifops:
Bomber responsible for his one year contract extension after he'd done his initial two.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "agar signing surely?'"


Yep signed by Hetherington and Agar.

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Despite his many faults, agar did make one or two very good signings

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eastul105 wrote lets be fair Mickey Paea is too good for us.:



Quote: Kosh "Nobody is in any danger of getting carried away. Neither is it necessary to downplay our performance nor invent imaginary scenarios where things might have gone really badly in order to view the performance in proper perspective.

I'm constantly surprised at the number of FC fans who wholeheartedly embrace alternate Universe theory.'"

Correct i bet no wigan fans were inventing scenarios of Hull playing much better in last years challenge cup final thus undermining their win.

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