That old saying...we deserve better..because we are owed it! Annoys me real bad when fans of any club think & say this..the players need to have pride in the job.. & not just turn up & milk a wage..if it happened in other careers would they still be employed?

Exactly,we can only ask a player to give 100% and its not happening.

Ah. We're playing the old 'alternative Universe' card.

There's no telling how things might have panned out had Bradford not had their points deduction, or had it overturned part way through the season. It might have been the kick up the pants we needed. You can't change one factor and assume everything else would have played out the same way.

And in any case - in [ithis[/i Universe Bradford [idid[/i get a points deduction, so we are exactly where we should be. Which TBH is plenty depressing enough.

10% would be good, but (B)Radford couldn't motivate an undertaker in a care home, the "man" is useless.

I genuinely thought last week might be a turning point, and that even if we didn't make the 8 we would finish the season with a bit of momentum and we would all feel a bit happier going into next season. But no, one week later and it's back to square one. Pathetic coach, pathetic team, pathetic season.

I know what your saying its just so frustrating to watch certain players just going through a game and not looking interested.Ellis,westerman,whether they play well or not give it a go,when plenty around them dont.

well if its not happening its down to the coach to sort it out as the effective manager of the players - you either get them to do it, or find some other players who will do it, or you give someone else the chance to manage them. as all FC fans know defeats are acceptable if the players all put in 100% effort. this just hasn't been happening this season. we've gone backwards in almost every aspect of the game. the lack of consistency in particular should be concerning to the owner

there is a real danger of relegation next season if this sorry mess isn't sorted out sooner than later.

I couldn't agree more. And given that [isome[/i players are capable of turning in a performance it can't be entirely the coaches fault.

I honestly think Radford had no idea what he was taking on. Seems he thought it was just Gentle doing it wrong, and once he was gone the players would buy in to the new regime without a problem. Now he's reaping what he had a role in sowing.

Thats unbelievable, surely the coach should make this decision, also that would juts motivate the players more.

What next, players vote who plays what position, this is a sports club, not Big Brother.

Good idea. Doubt Whiting would nominate himself at centre.

There was a comment from Radford about how he players had worked hard and talked about what they needed to do to win the game.

So why can't they bring that onto the field?

And if it's about talking up their plans and knowing what to do, they had enough time behind the posts to discuss it further in the second half.

All comes down to game management again I've said it for a couple of years now but we must have the dumbest set of players in sl. 12-0 up with a strong wind all we had to do was kick early in the set and feed off bradford's mistakes. For all of Radford's failings these players should be able themselves to do the basics

We said the same. That break from Horney for example led to an absolute horlicks of a play and they scored soon after (I think).

Why on earth we couldn't play sensible rugby and at least keep possession baffles me. They are pro players, not the half time little leaguers.

Our control of the game is so poor at times, hopefully Sneyd and Pryce will help that.

First ..to think letting Pitts and Arundal play was our downfall is way off the mark.If Radford cannot get his side to perform who got them up for Cas and saints? Would Sa being on from the start made any difference? doubt it.This loss was down to a poor performance by certain players making poor decisions ,poor defence and with a very poor kicking game and panic...nothing else.As someone said if Sneyd and Pryce were in the side today we would have won I have no doubt about that.Radford was spot on in his interview

Players make mistakes not only because of brain farts and tiredness, they make mistakes through lack of leadership both on and off the pitch, lack of cohesion as a group which absolutely includes the coach. Also fear of reprisal, being dropped/no contract renewal/being lambasted in public or amongst peer group.
The performances reflect the leader, they feed from him, the buck stops with Radford in every aspect of how we perform, both tactically, physically and mentally.
it's all well and good having talent but if you do not manage/coach that talent in the correct way it just will not perform, some 'people' just won't perform under a leader whom shows they are out of their depth/clueless or just mismanage the situation, 'sportspeople' are no different to any other persons from a psyche POV. In fact sportspersons at the top end of their sport are MORE fragile mentally than comparables in other industries..but our 'coach' wouldn't have a clue about that either...