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Quote: Standee "of course it is acceptable to bemoan a woeful performance for someone supposedly qualifies in the art of refereeing, Child ruined that game and as a paying spectator I have every right to tell him my thoughts, if you have a bad meal in a restaurant you can refuse to pay at the end, at the KC, once you're in, you're f'd!'"



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This is RL not the other game, we are above all this sort of thing. People have bad games and sure he had a bad game, people cook bad meals from time to time. Most times you argue with the waiter, not the chef as this would lead to confrontation and he wroks with some truly amazing tools of trade.

There is a chain of complaint for speccies is to the RFL direct, the clubs have there own route. The RFL work for the clubs afterall and its everyones interest to get it right, Mr Childs could do with some input and will get it.

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Quote: Ian P "There is a chain of complaint for speccies is to the RFL direct, the clubs have there own route. The RFL work for the clubs afterall and its everyones interest to get it right, Mr Childs could do with some input and will get it.'"


If I have a bad meal I ask to speak to the Chef, he cooked it, not the waiter. The RFL have no previous for ever doing anything other than protecting the referees, no matter how poor they are.

I, and everyone else, has a right to complain.

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Quote: Standee "If I have a bad meal I ask to speak to the Chef, he cooked it, not the waiter.'"


The chef is probably delighted to meet the complainant in person.

You'll have all manner of surplus ingredients in your next dish.

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Quote: withernsea zebra "The chef is probably delighted to meet the complainant in person.

You'll have all manner of surplus ingredients in your next dish.'"


I wouldn't do it somewhere I hadn't been before for that very reason, I'd just not go back, but I have spoken to chefs on a number of occasions and, bar one, they have always been greatful for the criticism, so long as it is constructive.

Anyway, talk about thread drift, apologies.

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Quote: Standee "If I have a bad meal I ask to speak to the Chef, he cooked it, not the waiter. The RFL have no previous for ever doing anything other than protecting the referees, no matter how poor they are.

I, and everyone else, has a right to complain.'"


You can't eat Italian much, saying the pasta was undercooked to an Italian could get very nasty icon_lol.gif

There is a complaint route for us to use and I would like to think that this game perhaps more then most does listen to its core supporters more then others. With this incident as with others similar the RFL where duty bound to stand behind the official in line with the rules. By complaining in the manner he did Rich broke the rules and made any sort of FC protest nul and void.

Hull FC made no official protest about the event, that speaks volumes. I know where you are coming from and I was also frustrated that day but most of us can not vent our feelings direct to the person concerned, good job too . icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Ian P "By complaining in the manner he did Rich broke the rules and made any sort of FC protest nul and void.'"


I wasn't, for one second, condoining Agars actions, but you and cod'ead were suggesting we have no right to complain, as customers, I believe we do.

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Quote: Ian P "You can't eat Italian much, saying the pasta was undercooked to an Italian could get very nasty
Think you'll find Hull Fc did make an offical protest

www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=16918
Quote: Ian P "You can't eat Italian much, saying the pasta was undercooked to an Italian could get very nasty
Think you'll find Hull Fc did make an offical protest

www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=16918


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Quote: Standee "I wasn't, for one second, condoining Agars actions, but you and cod'ead were suggesting we have no right to complain, as customers, I believe we do.'"



Now where did either of us say we had no right of complaint?

I have always found that a polite, well-constructed e-mail has always resulted in a response, it may not have been the response I would have liked but it was a response.

There's no problem with complaining about something, it is the way the complaint is worded and delivered that causes problems

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Quote: cod'ead "Now where did either of us say we had no right of complaint?

I have always found that a polite, well-constructed e-mail has always resulted in a response, it may not have been the response I would have liked but it was a response.

There's no problem with complaining about something, it is the way the complaint is worded and delivered that causes problems'"


I misunderstood your and Ian's posts, I did think you saying people can't complain was a touch, well, ironic.

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Quote: jacko1 "Think you'll find Hull Fc did make an offical protest



To the match commisioner they did yes.

Sorry

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Quote: cod'ead "Neither are acceptable'"


Well after reading some of your comments regarding Agar over the last couple of months I can only conclude that you are a massive hypocrite.

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With all the slagging off Childs got on here,from me included,do we have to pay six grand as well?

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Well after reading some of your comments regarding Agar over the last couple of months I can only conclude that you are a massive hypocrite.'"



You, as a near-imbecile, are entitled to conclude what you wish. I wouldn't want to deprive you of that small comfort

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Agar said his piece and has been punished. Now what about Childs punishment for the way he handled a professional sport. Has he been dropped for a game? an official warnning about his performances? Agar has had his fate publicised so it would only be fair to find out childs fate?

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As I pointed out on the other thread, some people have got a little carried away with the "respect" side of the charges. Morgan's punishment a couple of years back was also due to a breach of the RFL's "respect" regulations and there was no suggestions of homophobic language by him as some have alluded to in Agar's criticisms of Child.

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