CBA reading the thread, but it was a pretty terrible show. Why they felt the need to construct a (poorly) organised attack against Griffin, I don't know. It was so narrowly focused on issues on which Griffin's views were hardly going to be revelatory to the general public that it was bereft of purpose. It should have just been a normal episode, with a much wider range of topics, and the sneering, racist would have shown himself up much more than the weak panel managed to.

As it was, he won't have convinced anyone who wasn't already certain what to think that he's an odious prick and he might well have gained sympathy from some who will have seen him as the underdog/target of bullying. A pity because it was a real opportunity to demolish the BNP and ensure that they wouldn't get votes from disillusioned supporters of others parties.

Luckily, Griffin is a terrible orator and leader. With someone with a little more intelligence in charge (probably not going to happen, as most with even a little more intelligence wouldn't go near them or their views), they could be a very dangerous group. Fortunately, it looks like the country is recovering enough that their scaremongering and spreading of hate won't be too effective by the time of the next election.

I could do with a pole for the garden

As a point - if you don't believe something don't say it - really simple idea

I'm all for reedom of speech - this allows people to listen to opinions and views and form their view.

So if you agree in Democracy and freedom of speach does this mean that you are Ok with 'people' preaching the values of Sharia Law... would be very interested in your view

Apologies if I have misundertood anything - I may have got to exited by the debate and read what you said wrongly

Incidentally, I would be interested to hear anyone's definition of an indigenous British person. Because I sure as hell haven't a clue.

Griffin last night was waffling about being true to the people here 17000 years ago - anyone have an idea as to whom he was referring?

One thing I do know - when you mix light of all different colours together you get white light.

Stanley Gene?

Well said Denbo !!!!! Unfortunately, you're not allowed to have concerns about the future of your country. You're not allowed to question why some people are here when they clearly detest us, our country and our lifestyle. You're not allowed to agree with some (not all) of what Nick griffin says. You're not allowed to argue with all these politically correct sheep who jump onto the nearest and easiest bandwagon.


I don't like to say this but I'll say it very quietly....... it means that we are apparently ...... no I can't say it because it is so dreadful. the "R" word !!

Thought everyone might remember this from a few weeks back which was quite interesting yet very relevant to this whole thread here .
You may recall from the tabloids a little while ago Michael Richards (better known as Kramer from US TV show Sienfeld made this very very important speech whilst standing in court accused of making a racial comment during one of his stand up comedy shows in New York in August.
He said “ There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Arabic Americans, Asian Americans etc and there are simple old fashioned Americans which are called by all those above Cracker, Honkey , white trash, Caveman etc yet that’s ok and not considered racist??
BUT if I called one of those a n*****r, Sand Jockey, Towel head, Beaner, Gook, Chink, Camel Daddy or anything similar it iS racist ?? is that correct or right?? Is that a rule for one but not the other??
The black office of equality in America stated in their annual address to Congress that whites are the biggest committer of offences against Black people in the USA yet government and local police statistics show that Harlem and similar Black Ghetto areas across America are the worst areas for Crime, murder and drug related crime.
America has Martin Luther King day, A United Negro college fund, A black history month in schools, Cesar chavez Day, Hashoa, Ma,uled al Nabi , NAACP etc etc but if white Americans were to hold a White pride day it would be labelled a fascist function or a white history month in schools it would be racist..
Why are foreign Nationals and non whites allowed to have associations, clubs and organisations to advance their creeds and colours yet if we had a white equivalent it is racist??
There is a black & Hispanic chamber of commerce yet no White equivalent why is that??
No whites are allowed in the black miss America Pageant yet all colours are allowed into the Miss America show, if we had a white college fund that paid only white students it would be a fascist organisation why is that ??? alongside the 60 Black only funded colleges in the uSA that do not allow whites through their doors now isn’t that something we all recall from the days of civil rights & Martin Luther King or am I miss guided here??
There was a million black man march which was marching for its race that saw the crime rate soar in the area by 570% yet if there was a million white man march it would be seen as a anti civil rights issue …

People should be proud to be black, yellow orange or what ever colour they are it matters not to me and you should be proud to announce it but surely also then whites should not live under the banner of fear if they announce they are proud to be white should they??

So can you explain to me why only white people are racist?? Why does no one complain when Chris Rock or similar talented black comedians make white jokes or similar remarks , to me its just plain racism but a racism that no one dare yet touch upon as no one is strong enough to tackle the back lash from the society we live in which is blatantly one sided towards any colour or race other than whites!!…

I shall finish now by stating that unless I am uninformed it isn’t yet illegal to be white but it is getting close, and I shall now go home with BLACK wife of 16 years to my three half white half black children and continue living together as Martin luther King wanted side by side in harmony …

He got a standing ovation in the court for that and the case was thrown out, make a few good points I think !!

never said i was the author but did say it was a good plan to which I added a few bits I thought was relevant, best read back sir but isnt that a deposition of blocking free speach !! whole point on this thread i believe!!

Because the Daily Mail features an ill-informed rant about that tiny minority on just about every single day of the week, leading those of feeble mind to believe that there's a muslim on every street corner waiting to detonate his backpack?

well said, too true

Once again, opposing the BNP is not a case of "political correctness" or "bandwagon jumping".

Griffin can throw in a populist comment but it doesn't mean he is any less a fascist.

The sight of him on Thursday wearing a poppy turned my stomach, given the fact that it's a symbol of the fallen in wars - including British and Commonwealth men and women who died fighting fascism in Germany. The war of which Nick Griffin said "Adolf went a bit too far."

If you are concerned with immigration and the main political parties do not provide the policies you support then why not turn to UKIP rather than a fascist party?

I have actually voted UKIP in the past. I agree with some of their opinions (not all), just as I agree with some of the BNP's (not all).