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| Quote Thetalentboy="Thetalentboy"Taylor has been out for 3 years on top money hardly good news is it given how skint we are
People moan about Johnstone but he does the exact same thing as Houghton difference is Johnstone is on about 80,000 a year less! Both offer nothing in attack yet rid of all 3'"
You do realise we are one of the highest point scoring teams at the moment?
Amazing given Houghton stifles our attack so much according to you.
And I’ve never seen Johnstone get anywhere near the defensive stats Danny clocks up every week?
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| Houghton isn't the player he was, but offers alot more threat than JJ.
Often gets us on the front foot, backs up well too as we have seen a couple of times this year.
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| Just looked on Sky bet. We are 7th fav to win CC . Only Wakefield behind us. Definitely fancy us now
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| Quote davey41="davey41"You do realise we are one of the highest point scoring teams at the moment?
Amazing given Houghton stifles our attack so much according to you.
And I’ve never seen Johnstone get anywhere near the defensive stats Danny clocks up every week?'"
How many tries has he scored or set up not many
Tackling again.... Name me a hooker who can't tackle? Every hooker can tackle
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| Quote Thetalentboy="Thetalentboy"How many tries has he scored or set up not many
Tackling again.... Name me a hooker who can't tackle? Every hooker can tackle'"
But you said he’s stifling our attack?
Invariably he’s at acting half and first to touch the ball in a move. Therefore he will have had some part to play (however small) in most tries we score.
Christ you sound like you want him to do it all.
Tackling. Very important part of the game. How many hookers make more tackles than he does?
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| Quote davey41="davey41"But you said he’s stifling our attack?
Invariably he’s at acting half and first to touch the ball in a move. Therefore he will have had some part to play (however small) in most tries we score.
Christ you sound like you want him to do it all.
Tackling. Very important part of the game. How many hookers make more tackles than he does?'"
A under 8 hooker at West hull will do the same then!
Roby daryl Clark make 40 tackles a game yet still have amazing attacking games
Houghton tackles and thats all
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| Quote Thetalentboy="Thetalentboy"A under 8 hooker at West hull will do the same then!
Roby daryl Clark make 40 tackles a game yet still have amazing attacking games
Houghton tackles and thats all'"
You serious?
Neither Roby or Clark are currently in the top 20 of super league for tackles?
Guess who is number one?
Neither are they anywhere in the stats for tries or assists?
Strange that!
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| Quote davey41="davey41"You serious?
Neither Roby or Clark are currently in the top 20 of super league for tackles?
Guess who is number one?
Neither are they anywhere in the stats for tries or assists?
Strange that!'"
You said Houghton touches ball for every try at the play the ball.... Well yeah hookers at Myton or east Leeds will do the same someone has to pass the ball from dummy half
Andy ackers is 2nd
Sam Powell 3rd
Oh yeah all 3 are hookers!
Houghton isn't on the assist list either what's your point?
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| Quote Thetalentboy="Thetalentboy"You said Houghton touches ball for every try at the play the ball.... Well yeah hookers at Myton or east Leeds will do the same someone has to pass the ball from dummy half

Andy ackers is 2nd
Sam Powell 3rd
Oh yeah all 3 are hookers!
Houghton isn't on the assist list either what's your point?'"
How many hookers are in the top 20?
If you want to use stats I'd suggest you do some research first or you will look stupid, particularly on try involvements you have mentioned.
So let's look at those stats, you often mention Clarke and Roby
Houghton 2 trys, 2 assists
Roby 2 trys 2 assists
Clarke 1 try 0 assists
So Houghtons try contributions compare to other top hookers so far this year.
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| Quote Thetalentboy="Thetalentboy"How many tries has he scored or set up not many
Tackling again.... Name me a hooker who can't tackle? Every hooker can tackle'"
I posted this on the Wigan thread and it appears it shut you up, I’ll try again.
“So single handedly Houghton has held our attack back. Preposterous, we haven’t had an attack to speak of for 5 years. Radford’s 5 drives and a Sneyd kick held it back. We saw glimpses of Hodgson’s attacking style last year but definitely this year and Danny has played a full part. Why have you got such a massive downer on our collective team and coach. I’d hate to be next to you at a game but you probably don’t attend, there used to be a lot of so called supporters like you at The Boulevard, but at least they paid to criticise. Clueless.”
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| In regards to the discussion re Houghton, its not that he isn't good enough anymore the issue is more how we have used or rather overused him for years. Unfortunately he is no longer the player he was 5 years ago and we can not expect him to continue week in week out to perform at a consistent level if we are flogging him for 80mins every week.
That is for me that is the issue that we need to address, playing him but spelling him in games we would get much more benefit and see a big difference in games. Leaving him on for 80mins does us little favour as by about the 60min mark he's practically out of gas.
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| Quote Chris71="Chris71"In regards to the discussion re Houghton, its not that he isn't good enough anymore the issue is more how we have used or rather overused him for years. Unfortunately he is no longer the player he was 5 years ago and we can not expect him to continue week in week out to perform at a consistent level if we are flogging him for 80mins every week.
That is for me that is the issue that we need to address, playing him but spelling him in games we would get much more benefit and see a big difference in games. Leaving him on for 80mins does us little favour as by about the 60min mark he's practically out of gas.'"
Fully agree but the lack of first teamers either through injury or suspension has unfortunately meant he’s been used for the full 80 minutes, now we have practically a full squad, I expect Lovodua to play loose man and Lane to come off the bench so Lovodua can spell Houghton.
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