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| Firstly, people who are already writing our season off and consigning us to scrapping it out with Batley to avoid relegation are overreacting. We are 4 games in, and as bad as we were last night there are clearly worse teams in this league than us. Wakefield shipped nearly 60 points at Widnes last week ffs.
That said, I just don't know what direction the club are going in. One of Leeds fans commented that Hull don't seem to have a plan. Every season we just sign a bunch of players and ship a load out for no apparent reason. I agree with that to an extent, but actually we do have a plan, we want the backbone of the team to be made up of local lads who are passionate about the club. The trouble is we just don't know how to go about it.
I'm not Pearsons biggest fan either, he has made more mistakes than I can list, and he still hides behind the Gentle/McRea excuses which people on here seem to lap up. One thing he has succeeded in however (how much is down to sheer luck I don't know) is that our junior teams are as strong as they have been for 10 years. The 19s may well win their comp this year and the 16s are strong too.
So my prime concern about the club right now isn't that we might get relegated (even if we are in the middle 8 there's still a big gulf to the championship) or that crowds will dwindle. It's that we could potentially have a golden generation coming through, and they are going to be thrown in at the deep end by an incompetent coach who will allow their talent to go to waste.
We need to stop looking for ridiculous excuses every week, admit that appointing Radford was a mistake and bring in someone who can give us a clear plan of where we want to go. The club Hull idea is fine, but we are building it on sand.
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| The youngsters (Abdull and Tergut) came in last night and looked like headless chickens. Im not blaming them in anyway btw just that they didnt step up unlike the youngsters of Wigan, Saints, Leeds etc who step up and look like theve been in the sides for years so i wouldnt go putting all my eggs in one basket expecting the youngsters weve got to dominate RL for the next ten years as it wont happen
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| Quote paintman="paintman"I think the walk out happened last night.I've never seen the ground empty so quickly with 5 mins left'"
You obviously were not there when you were thumped by the Robins in our first year back in Super league or when you lost in the play offs. On both occasions it was embarrassing when your players walked round the ground clapping empty seats. On the second occasion a special farewell had been arranged as it was your last home match of the season irrespective of the outcome of the match. Both times your supporters did not even stay to see the last five minute mark.
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| Quote paintman="paintman"I've never seen the ground empty so quickly with 5 mins left'"
I have.
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| Despite last night's showing, I think Hull F.C is on the up.
That being said I wrote to Adam Pearson following our slaughter in the play-offs against Huddersfield in Sept, 2013. I've included an extract I wrote to him and still believe this is where Hull's real problem is:
"......one suggestion is to assess player performance in the context of how many 'good' games they have in a season. My view is that we are lacking players who can play consistently well week in, week out. We should be developing a squad where the stats prove that all players are putting in 'good' performances on a ratio of 1:3 rather than what I believe could be 1:6 or worse. On a 1:3 ratio that would mean any player would play 9 good games out of the whole Super League season: is that too much to ask of a professional? Apply that across a squad of 17 players and coaching team and this is where I think improvement must be made and where we reduce the number of overall losses, draws, and debacles such as last night."
How this inconsistency is 'coached out,' I don't know but too many players don't seem to know how to either play their way out of a corner or put their xollocxx on the line and fight their way out.
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| Quote nleech="nleech"Despite last night's showing, I think Hull F.C is on the up.
That being said I wrote to Adam Pearson following our slaughter in the play-offs against Huddersfield in Sept, 2013. I've included an extract I wrote to him and still believe this is where Hull's real problem is:
"......one suggestion is to assess player performance in the context of how many 'good' games they have in a season. My view is that we are lacking players who can play consistently well week in, week out. We should be developing a squad where the stats prove that all players are putting in 'good' performances on a ratio of 1:3 rather than what I believe could be 1:6 or worse. On a 1:3 ratio that would mean any player would play 9 good games out of the whole Super League season: is that too much to ask of a professional? Apply that across a squad of 17 players and coaching team and this is where I think improvement must be made and where we reduce the number of overall losses, draws, and debacles such as last night."
How this inconsistency is 'coached out,' I don't know but too many players don't seem to know how to either play their way out of a corner or put their xollocxx on the line and fight their way out.'"
Did you get a reply?
I like the "back to basics" approach of your player analysis. Play better, and do it more often. Easy isn't it? Are you in consultancy?
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| And lo, here they are...
The "never been stuffed at home, never left early, holier than thou" brigade. Welcome guys!
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| Quote nleech="nleech"Despite last night's showing, I think Hull F.C is on the up.
That being said I wrote to Adam Pearson following our slaughter in the play-offs against Huddersfield in Sept, 2013. I've included an extract I wrote to him and still believe this is where Hull's real problem is:
"......one suggestion is to assess player performance in the context of how many 'good' games they have in a season. My view is that we are lacking players who can play consistently well week in, week out. We should be developing a squad where the stats prove that all players are putting in 'good' performances on a ratio of 1:3 rather than what I believe could be 1:6 or worse. On a 1:3 ratio that would mean any player would play 9 good games out of the whole Super League season: is that too much to ask of a professional? Apply that across a squad of 17 players and coaching team and this is where I think improvement must be made and where we reduce the number of overall losses, draws, and debacles such as last night."
How this inconsistency is 'coached out,' I don't know but too many players don't seem to know how to either play their way out of a corner or put their xollocxx on the line and fight their way out.'"
Your club will never achieve anything if you are only expecting them to play one good match in three. Out of a squad of 17, on average, only just over 5 players would be having a good match. I doubt you would win many matches with this scenario.
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| Quote Keiththered="Keiththered"Your club will never achieve anything if you are only expecting them to play one good match in three. Out of a squad of 17, on average, only just over 5 players would be having a good match. I doubt you would win many matches with this scenario.'"
Well you would know, having watched your lot fail to achieve in god knows how many years.
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| Quote Lostyorkie="Lostyorkie"The problem though is Lee Radford has had more time and money then any coach that I can ever remember'"
Were you not around when Rich Agar was here?
Quote Lostyorkie="Lostyorkie" But if the whistle blew to start the game and then people walked out it would provide a clear message of no confidence that could not be seen as an emotional response.'"
If you're expecting people to fork out the money to get into the game & then walk out as soon as it's kicked off then you're going to be sorely disappointed.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Campese's better than Millward you fool.
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Bit before my time but I really hope you are right Mrs Barista. Anyway HKR board must think he has something special because they are looking to extend his contract.
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| Same s**t , different season.
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