How about Horne played because he is a better defender than Miller.

Yeh I think that was probably what radford thought! But watching the game again, he did miss a few tackles he should of made, made some decent tackles to, don't think millers defence is actually to bad, think is own enthusiasm causes his own downfall, often last season he was quick of the line and first man in to a tackle no matte who it was on and came of 2nd best, maybe if his team mates showed as much enthusiasm as him and got of the line quicker they'd be two man in the tackle, leaving him less exposed one on one! Saying that I thought Horne had an half decent game and deserves the spot against saints. Frustrating he didnt get ball out wide when we had big overlap, but I'm sure he's more disappointed than anyone. Miller will get is chance, and really hope he takes it, I think he could end up been a decent signing in a well organised team, and one with confidence. And I know the young hb in our team rate him very highly

You mean last year when we got to a challenge cup final without Horne?

Can people please remind me of any game where he was 'not good enough'. Because quite frankly, people are talking rubbish. Fans who write a player off after a handful of games are the type of fans we don't want, no wonder we're a laughing stock at times. Same people were talking the same rubbish about Seymour this time last year too.

And shall we again remind the experts on here what the current World Cup winning coach, Tim Sheens, said of Milky when handing him his NRL debut.
''If you're good enough, you're old enough. And I think he's good enough.''

Confident he'll show up for us this year when given his opportunity.

Unfortunately at Wembley when in the biggest game he has played in like most of his team mates he simply wasn't good enough.
I do think he will turn out to be a good scrum half for us I just think at the moment while Rankin is finding his feet in the team it's best to have horney along side him and as many have said he will get his chance this season

Agree. It really is that simple, isn't it?

I can't understand why just because Miller is not our starting 7 in week No1, it encourages supporters to go to print listing a players negatives ?? all players have different strengths don't they ?

Its a squad game and young Jacob is one of our 7s so why cant we just support the players Radders picks ? After all we won didnt we ? Milky will get his chance, and when he does he needs us to be 100% behind him when he pulls on that shirt.

Whether its Horney, Miller or Heremia at 7 they all bring different strengths and weaknesses, some weeks they will look good others they wont look so good, Remember Miller is learning the game still, that doesn't justify comments like Miller isn't good enough. Lets just give the kid a chance.

In the past we have got on a players back during games, like in the cases of Motu Tony and Brett Seymour. In my book thats not support. It brings absolutely nothing.
Lets not let forum talk start something similar with a young lad with loads of potential (Sheens) who's still putting his game together for Hull FC.
If a player wears Black and White, if he's in that shirt because Radders believes he should wear it, then thats good enough for me. Lets not castigate a player before he's even given his chance to show us his improvement.

Anyone who thinks Horne was 'gash' on Friday needs their eyes testing. He wasn't brilliant - made some poor errors for mine - but he created two tries and scored one. Needs to up his game but that could be said for a few others also.

Miller is bound to get his chance as the season progresses.

Who else needs to step up??

Crooks and Lineham defensively for sure and to a lesser extent Ellis who also made a mistake on that side.

Crooks and Lineham defensively for starters. Houghton. Whiting was a mixed bag (some sublime stuff, some poor mistakes). Ellis made some mistakes you wouldn't really expect of him as well.

First game of the season, though. I don't expect everyone to be 100% perfect. Encouraging start.

Wouldn't argue with that.....surprised you didn't say Yeaman