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| Quote BP1="BP1"Ooh yeah, I reckon a team of that quality could very well challenge for 8th/9th in SL. Oh, hang on..'"
This is a happy place go away with your doom mongering.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Oh, go on. I'm out of town too, so 66% of out of towners surveyed would go according to my maths. We could form a club, I'll bring sandwiches, blakeysrobin the flask of tea, you'd not be able to resist for long.'"
Looks like I'm bringing the Pimms then
Seriously - would be no-go for me. Not worried while AP is in charge though as my sig points out.
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| Quote blakeysrobin="blakeysrobin"This is a happy place go away with your doom mongering.'"
This is RLFans, this is never a happy place, you know that, you've been here long enough to know that  .
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| MERGER MY ARSE . I dont know what I would do but I know 100% I wouldnt be going to watch a joint team as long as ive got an hole in my aris
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| Quote BP1="BP1"Ooh yeah, I reckon a team of that quality could very well challenge for 8th/9th in SL. Oh, hang on..'"
Fair comment. Let's stay as we are then, that'll work.
To be clear, I'm totally playing devil's advocate but if the current situation is bang average with no imminent prospect of improvement and a potential to deteriorate, you have to imagine some alternative scenarios and make sure you're not missing an opportunity simply because in the short term it would be painful and difficult. Merger may be unworkable but if 10 years down the line RL in the city were in a better place with consolidated resource and fanbase, you have to at least consider it. The issue is we won't know until we try and it could be a total disaster and/or have no longevity of funding, so it won't happen.
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| Team Name Kingston upon Hull.
Club mascot a housemartin, or a cannibal (luis suarez??)
Kit Red white and black, in no particular order
Done. Move on.
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| Even with the talk of tapas for us out of towners , I'm not for a merger (and the temptation to lock this has been almost overwhelming). I just feel that both clubs have so much tradition (my in-laws have been going for 50+ years plus their parents before them, for example) that would be lost, sacrificed in the altar of the quick buck (and for who?). The posts about derby day are spot on and I'm not convinced that regular 20000 crowds are a probability even within 5 years. Success for one team would increase crowds at that club, but not necessarily at the expense of the other.
I think it is time for a serious discussion about RL finances and marketing the game better as the "dying in its arris" comments are, in my view, right too. Merging clubs wasn't the answer in 1995/6 and it isn't now for mine. I can't come up with a suitable football merger suggestion that reflects FC/KR (finances, rivalry, current positions/performance), but for sake of argument, imagine the outcry (because I can) if the suggestion was for Sheffield United and Sheffield Wednesday to merge, just because one was having a little difficulty?
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"I think I would if the alternative were standing on some crappy terracing in a poor location watching low quality rugby. So, I could stretch to tolerating a bit of red in the shirt and Kingston in the club's name, just about. But not at Craven Park, that would be the dealbreaker. They smell.
The tradition argument needs a bit of context. 150 years ago there was no Hull FC, pretty much no RL. The derbies are good, but we've survived spells without them. The Boulevard is our spiritual home, but has been flattened, and once we resided at Selby, or some such. If there were the possibility of a truly vibrant single team in the city that could genuinely challenge for honours on a regular basis, I think in the medium term it could attract big attendances. The world is changing at pace, and at a pace that's accelerating. To always do what we've always done in rugby league may hasten our own demise. Adapt or die. =#FF0000A merger may not be the answer because the short term lack of appeal might kill it before it got started, but the game's up shiit creek and some big thinking is needed. Unfortunately Red Hall doesn't appear to be blessed with strategists divorced from the 2-3 big clubs.'"
To be honest Mrs B, you hit the nail on the head in your first post. The problem for a merged club would lay in the time it would take to convince the doubting thomas' (who, me sir) that this was the best way forward. Someone would have to bankroll the club for a number of years before the project reached fruition and I have a feeling the associated parties would pull the plug before sufficient progress was made.
I still believe that Hull fc, in their current guise, are capable of scaling the heights once more, which rather negates the original question in my eyes.
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| Quote BP1="BP1"To be honest Mrs B, you hit the nail on the head in your first post. The problem for a merged club would lay in the time it would take to convince the doubting thomas' (who, me sir) that this was the best way forward. Someone would have to bankroll the club for a number of years before the project reached fruition and I have a feeling the associated parties would pull the plug before sufficient progress was made.
I still believe that Hull fc, in their current guise, are capable of scaling the heights once more, which rather negates the original question in my eyes.'"
This too...
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| Quote Chris28="Chris28"Even with the talk of tapas for us out of towners , I'm not for a merger (and the temptation to lock this has been almost overwhelming). I just feel that both clubs have so much tradition (my in-laws have been going for 50+ years plus their parents before them, for example)=#FF0000 that would be lost, sacrificed in the altar of the quick buck (and for who?). The posts about derby day are spot on and I'm not convinced that regular 20000 crowds are a probability even within 5 years. Success for one team would increase crowds at that club, but not necessarily at the expense of the other.
I think it is time for a serious discussion about RL finances and marketing the game better as the "dying in its arris" comments are, in my view, right too. Merging clubs wasn't the answer in 1995/6 and it isn't now for mine. I can't come up with a suitable football merger suggestion that reflects FC/KR (finances, rivalry, current positions/performance), but for sake of argument, imagine the outcry (because I can) if the suggestion was for Sheffield United and Sheffield Wednesday to merge, just because one was having a little difficulty?'"
This is a major point for me, I feel we would lose so much with no guarentee of riches down the road anyway. In a worst case scenario we could end up with no club. No Fc, no Kr, no merged club.
Also Chris, why were you tempted to lock the thread. It's actually an interesting discussion for once on what is, admittedly, an hypothetical scenario.
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| Quote BP1="BP1"This is a major point for me, I feel we would lose so much with no guarentee of riches down the road anyway. In a worst case scenario we could end up with no club. No Fc, no Kr, no merged club.
Also Chris, why were you tempted to lock the thread. It's actually an interesting discussion for once on what is, admittedly, an hypothetical scenario.'"
Was only joking. I thought it after the first post actually but its become a proper discussion, very rare these days
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| I'm really worried that those nasty people at Red Hall will think we're serious and will start making merging noises again. Can we remove all traces of this thread before Nigel and his gang find out.
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