Well said. Gentle has his work cut out this year. I haven`t been impressed yet .Seems to be the same as last season .

Can't agree with any of that. We won the majority of collisions attack and defence, made yards with ease and generally kicked well on the back of it. The forwards did their job just fine, Salford just executed far better than us.

Had we starved them of field position it would have been a different result but shoddy discipline invited them to our line one too many times. The penalties conceded weren't as a result of us struggling to contain Salford either, they were just individual brain farts on the whole.

On a side note, why oh why is Richard Horne STILL allowed to attempt drop goals?

Our pack is not good enough . Another good prop needed ASAP. Lets hope O`Carroll can fill that role.
A long hard 2012 ahead .

Funny how it takes a loss to bring those comments out.

First of all the Rovers game is of no relevance at all. Also we weren't poor against Warrington or London. We looked far from the finished article but certainly not poor.

If rather than losing our own scrum and conceding a try we had kept the ball and got one ourselves it would have been hailed as a good result in tough circumstances. But as we know people are fickle.

We lost a game we should win, we will do it again this year as will every team in the league. Get over it and move on.

Like I say think Gentle will do a good job but end of day we don't have the quality too many ordinary players

People need to bear in mind that the vast majority of this squad have spent the last few seasons being trained by a coach that nobody rates. I don't care how good a coach Gentle is, it's going to take time to reverse that damage. Last night had '2011 written all over it' because under pressure those players reverted to the bad habits ingrained into them over successive seasons.

I'm as disappointed as anyone but things like this were always going to happen. And anyone who had top 4 aspirations prior to last night was being unrealistic in any case.

The rovers game does matter. We were poor in that game and have continued to be so where as they were average to good and have continued to be so. The Wire game they was much better first half and we was in the second, London we were definately poor but luckily we was playing London so were made to look better and last night was just an embarassment. You all continue to bury your head in the sand but this is a poor poor team with only about three players decent enough to get in side capable of winning SL. The rest are just just poor to average

I've never know anyone to moan as much as you.

I was gutted at the result last night and couldn't believe we'd got beaten by them.

Salford to their credit played a solid but unspectacular style of rugby backed up with a decent kicking game.
We gifted them far too much possession with daft penalties and all that defensive work obviously took its toll. There were also brainfarts at crucial times by certain players which didn't help when in possession but overall I am just putting last night down to a bad day at the office and hopefully a much needed wake up call for the players.
Improvement is there for all to see in our attacking and defensive structures but just not being executed well yet but that will come.
Rome wasn't built in a day and Gentle recognises this I think some fans should too.
It's a clean slate for Hull this season as far as I'm concerned and comparisons to last season are unwarranted and unfair although they could be a mental hangover for some players still.
It's not all doom and gloom we are currently a work in progress and that's how I will view us this season.

And why did we have only two props?

Is it anything to do with the fact that we have knowingly and happily started the season with an embarrassing total of FOUR established props and THREE established back rowers in the whole squad?

Now we have an average injury list (much less than some other sides) and we're unlucky again are we?

I hope for your sake you do not genuinely believe every word you write.

Sorry Seb I forgot about hws.