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| Quote Irregular Hoops="Irregular Hoops"The syle of rugby is poor. I can't stand media whore Morgan, but he gets the best out of his players. We seem to struggle at that.
Agar has one year on his contract after this year. Can't see him going anywhere just yet. The pressure will be on him next year though.
His team, his style of play. I reckon he'll be judged next year.
We've seen what Tony Smith has done, with the same set of players that James Lowes had at Warrington though. A good coach goes a long way................'"
not when they are at loggerheads he doesnt 
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| Quote Irregular Hoops="Irregular Hoops"The syle of rugby is poor. I can't stand media whore Morgan, but he gets the best out of his players. We seem to struggle at that.
Agar has one year on his contract after this year. Can't see him going anywhere just yet. The pressure will be on him next year though.
His team, his style of play. I reckon he'll be judged next year.
We've seen what Tony Smith has done, with the same set of players that James Lowes had at Warrington though. A good coach goes a long way................'"
exactly, you didn't see Wire messing about 'waiting for next year' they acted swiftly, and spent money where it was needed.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"I expect him to get the best out of what he's got and he's miles away from doing it. If sean long had of swapped sides tonight it would have made no difference whatsoever. fitzgibbon, tansey and kite may have made the game a little closer but we'd still have been well beaten by a side who looked 100 miles an hour faster than us in every facet of the game. Now if you think changing 4 or 5 players is going to change that then you're deluding yourself'"
It's not just the 4 or 5 players thing though, he'll have a leader, organiser and inventor on the pitch next season and he'll have had 4 months (minimum) of him working with the squad. I've been one of Agars loudest critics but he's had nothing to work with.
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| Can people who have been tonight comment on this thread or is it just for the armchair fans ? 
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| Quote t.m.t.b.f.="t.m.t.b.f."not when they are at loggerheads he doesnt
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They only kick off with each other after a loss..oh dear should be fun and games for Justino again tonight 
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| Quote TKOAH="TKOAH"It's not just the 4 or 5 players thing though, he'll have a leader, organiser and inventor on the pitch next season and he'll have had 4 months (minimum) of him working with the squad. I've been one of Agars loudest critics but he's had nothing to work with.'"
he's been heavily involved with the side since Kear's days, its hardly like he walked in last season and had to be introduced to everyone. The problems should have been obvious before he even got the head coach's job, its a whole year later and we're no better than we were then.
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| Quote TKOAH="TKOAH"It's not just the 4 or 5 players thing though, he'll have a leader, organiser and inventor on the pitch next season and he'll have had 4 months (minimum) of him working with the squad. I've been one of Agars loudest critics but he's had nothing to work with.'"
Mate, you're living in cloud cuckoo land. A lack of a half back doesn't stop us from getting quick PTB, dominating the opposition in defence, making effective interchanges, offloading the ball, backing up the man in posession, running dummy runners, kicking the ball effectively, chasing down kicks as though we're actually interested. It's all down to pish poor coaching. You can tell yourself all you want that sean long will make everything OK again but take it from me, he won't
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| Quote UllFC="UllFC"he's been heavily involved with the side since Kear's days, its hardly like he walked in last season and had to be introduced to everyone. The problems should have been obvious before he even got the head coach's job, its a whole year later and we're no better than we were then.'"
He couldn't do anything as assistant coach, our main problem lies with the personnel on the pitch, something he could do nothing about until now because of contracts etc.
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| Quote UllFC="UllFC"exactly, you didn't see Wire messing about 'waiting for next year' they acted swiftly, and spent money where it was needed.'"
They saw it needed changing, & did it.
Very pro-active & it's paid off.
No chance of Hull ever doing it though!
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Mate, you're living in cloud cuckoo land. A lack of a half back doesn't stop us from getting quick PTB, dominating the opposition in defence, making effective interchanges, offloading the ball, backing up the man in posession, running dummy runners, kicking the ball effectively, chasing down kicks as though we're actually interested. It's all down to pish poor coaching. You can tell yourself all you want that sean long will make everything OK again but take it from me, he won't'"
I'll give you the interchange thing, but look at us in attack totally unorganised which means should we ever get the quick ptb (usually on the back of Cusack, Dowes or Manu) the only option open to the acting half is to scoot themselves because nobody is ready. Look how slow we are to tap the ball on the 20 ffs. Again support play and offloading is nothing to do with Agar it's been atrocious for years, kicking again is down to lack of personnel Richard Horne should not be anywhere near kicking a ball but has to because there is no one else. We do need more enthusiasm in both attack and defence and maybe once Agar can offload some of the players who are clearly going through the motions this might change.
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| Quote TKOAH="TKOAH"I'll give you the interchange thing, but look at us in attack totally unorganised which means should we ever get the quick ptb (usually on the back of Cusack, Dowes or Manu) the only option open to the acting half is to scoot themselves because nobody is ready. Look how slow we are to tap the ball on the 20 ffs. Again support play and offloading is nothing to do with Agar it's been atrocious for years, kicking again is down to lack of personnel Richard Horne should not be anywhere near kicking a ball but has to because there is no one else. We do need more enthusiasm in both attack and defence and maybe once Agar can offload some of the players who are clearly going through the motions this might change.'"
that will be happening aswel
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| Quote TKOAH="TKOAH"I'll give you the interchange thing, but look at us in attack totally unorganised which means should we ever get the quick ptb (usually on the back of Cusack, Dowes or Manu) the only option open to the acting half is to scoot themselves because nobody is ready. Look how slow we are to tap the ball on the 20 ffs. Again support play and offloading is nothing to do with Agar it's been atrocious for years, kicking again is down to lack of personnel Richard Horne should not be anywhere near kicking a ball but has to because there is no one else. We do need more enthusiasm in both attack and defence and maybe once Agar can offload some of the players who are clearly going through the motions this might change.'"
Codswallop. It's down to coaching, whether that be Agar or the coaches before him. The fact he inherited a problem and hasn't fixed it does not clear him of being at fault.
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