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| Quote: hull2524 "Look we have plenty to moan about ATM. There's some like me who try to paint a positive picture regardless. Some infact most who praise us when we are good and complain rightly when we are crap. Then there's those who don't say nothing when we win but lose and it's post after post after post whining.'"
We won and it's still post after post after post.
Many of us, me included except our budget may not what it should be but cannot except how poor we actually are.
Recruitment not so good so far. Okunbor - jury still out but offers nothing currently a youngster wouldn't.
Nu Brown- a quality international hooker but a poor substitute for a SH.
Persisting in playing Houghton for 80 minutes.
Slow line speed.
No pressure on the kickers.
Poor attacking structure and shocking ill discipline.
The above is directly Smith's responsibility in which money has no bearing on.
That is his job to improve all of the above but I see no improvement whatsoever.
We are boring and dull and very fragile.
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| As always I try to offer a balance of opinion to the more vocalists on here.
As previously stated we have sat in the stands a big bulk of our salary cap players..
Tony Smith has won more and has more man management experience than everyone on here.
Balmforth I do believe is still carrying an injury issue.
Whilst I’m not convinced yet in Pele,
Ese Ese and Truman. They should and could well provide much more go forward than we currently have.
If that Jack Walker pass hadn’t been given as forward , we’d have gone on to win comfortably.
It was a makeshift team out there with a lot of pressure on the players to win.
I watched the world beaters get beat at a depleted Salford.
Like I keep saying there’s not a great standard out there at the moment.
It’s early days.
Main thing is we have points on the board.
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Dan Tomlinson had Lane as one of our better performers. Still what does he and smith and even me know.
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| Quote: pmarrow "You wont get into half of them, they just put the same thing on repeat but change the head coach name as appropiate. This rebuild is massive no matter who the head coach is. Trouble is people dont see beyond the first team results or the shoe string budget we have.
One of the most successful coach in SL, yet the armchair coaches claim the game has past him by. Getting rid wont solve the problem, no other head coach cant do more with this squad and budget. You wont get it into them though.'"
I don’t disagree that the rebuild is a huge task and doubt many others would however what does concern me is that irrespective of budget, line speed, discipline, on field organisation etc isn’t something that should be affected by budgets large or small.
Smith with all his experience and coaching pedigree has been in charge long enough to have made some form of impression/improvement and given us an identity. Yet we have seen little if any improvement in so many facets of the game since he replaced Hodgson.
We yet again were the engineers of our own downfall and almost did everything we could to give the game away and in the end got out of jail somehow.
To say no other coach could do more with this squad and budget is questionable as I dare say Rowley and Salfiord are an example of a team that has a limited budget and again lost key onfield personnel yet still look an organised snd well coached team.
Whilst there’s mitigating circumstances with the loss of players in bans and injuries that’s not an excuse for the same failings we see that even after a large degree of player turnover since last season.
I’m not saying TS should be sacked but think it’s fair that fans question things under his tenure based on the evidence so far.
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| Quote: Chris71 "I don’t disagree that the rebuild is a huge task and doubt many others would however what does concern me is that irrespective of budget, line speed, discipline, on field organisation etc isn’t something that should be affected by budgets large or small.
Smith with all his experience and coaching pedigree has been in charge long enough to have made some form of impression/improvement and given us an identity. Yet we have seen little if any improvement in so many facets of the game since he replaced Hodgson.
We yet again were the engineers of our own downfall and almost did everything we could to give the game away and in the end got out of jail somehow.
To say no other coach could do more with this squad and budget is questionable as I dare say Rowley and Salfiord are an example of a team that has a limited budget and again lost key onfield personnel yet still look an organised snd well coached team.
Whilst there’s mitigating circumstances with the loss of players in bans and injuries that’s not an excuse for the same failings we see that even after a large degree of player turnover since last season.
I’m not saying TS should be sacked but think it’s fair that fans question things under his tenure based on the evidence so far.'"
Spot on!
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| Quote: UllFC "Please explain how London who are on such a low budget some players are part time were just a few missed goal kicks from beating us.'"
See, you just can’t, can you? Go on, I dare you, pick a couple of positives from the game.
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| I won big on FC minus 3.5 points
Now, sadly to say I will use those winnings to place on the first coach in Super League to lose their job.
Likely to collect after Good Friday’s results
Somebody tell me I’m wasting my winnings
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| I’d be careful what you say lads,have a go at the moaners and bully’s on here and the gestapo have you on the naughty step faster than Putin getting rid of his rivals
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| Quote: Quirkyusername "See, you just can’t, can you? Go on, I dare you, pick a couple of positives from the game.'"
Err we won,
We had another youngster make his debut
It’s only the month of March, so early days
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| Quote: The games afoot "I’d be careful what you say lads,have a go at the moaners and bully’s on here and the gestapo have you on the naughty step faster than Putin getting rid of his rivals'"
Tbh there’s a cross mix on here .. a few conspiracy theorists
Some Manchester United fans too.
I get that the fan base have a cross spectrum of population but some of the doom and gloom is Eastenders quality.
Cone on guys!!
Wait till we have a representative squad on the field
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| Quote: boardwalkempire4 "Tbh there’s a cross mix on here .. a few conspiracy theorists
Some Manchester United fans too.
I get that the fan base have a cross spectrum of population but some of the doom and gloom is Eastenders quality.
Cone on guys!!
Wait till we have a representative squad on the field'"
How very dare you, my other team Everton, are crap as well
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| Quote: UllFC "Please explain how London who are on such a low budget some players are part time were just a few missed goal kicks from beating us.'"
Did you not feel and hear the crowd. The tension and the pressure the players were under.
It must suck the life out of the players.
Get behind them ! There were kids out there today.
There’s a clear and obvious reason why Houghton is playing 9at the moment .. if some folk on here can’t understand why then you really need to think about it…
We are playing with a weakened pack !!!
Getting pinged at marker would be worse if Houghton was not there…
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| I feel like a parrot on here.
If folk think dropping Lane and moving Nu Brown to 9 with our current team then we’d be nil from 3.
The amount of defensive work these two bring.
Nu brown is playing for fc not the kiwis.
Wait till we get a more representative team on the pitch.
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| Quote: The games afoot "I’d be careful what you say lads,have a go at the moaners and bully’s on here and the gestapo have you on the naughty step faster than Putin getting rid of his rivals'"
You can agree and disagree with people on here, however the comment you made in your post was removed for the reason that I kindly pointed out and explained to you in private.
If you have an issue.with the moderation on this board please feel free to contact Admin.
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| i thought today, it showed we have zero structure or system in attack. Granted Tony Smith's hands are tied, but there's no excuse for ,not implementing a basic structure.
Defensively, we are appalling, the only reason I can think, that Houghton is constantly selected, is because he's the only player capable of tackling below the knees on a consistent basis. The only other 2 players who are prepared to bend their backs are currently injured which are Fash and Cator.
The opposition constantly make easy yardage, because too many players are grabbing at the chest area, as the old saying goes "Can't run without their legs".
Personally I would like to see Nu Brown at 9, move Houghton to 13. Hoy to 6.
If Smith was to leave, the only 2 in this country, I would consider is Wane & Rowley., as for another NRL unproven assistant, I don't have any confidence in the hierarchy to select a suitable replacement.
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| Quote: Quirkyusername "See, you just can’t, can you? Go on, I dare you, pick a couple of positives from the game.'"
1) pitch didnt cut up too badly
2) It didnt rain
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