for me no comment would have meant he was moving on.

Thats a decent loan signing

So what are we looking like for 2025?

1. Walker?
2. Briscoe
3. Chamberlain
4. Hardaker
5. Martin/Barrron
6. Turueman/ new signing
7. Abdul
8. Herman
9. Cust
10. Sao
11. Lane
12. Cartwright
13. Asiata

14. Ashworth
15. Aydin
16. Holmes
17. Burough/Balmforth

Now people will call me negative because they can't process the reality of where we are, ut to me that still looks like a bottom 3 side. No pace in the backs, no strike out wide, ageing/ injury prone players. No surprise lam wants to stay at leigh.

We really need another 3 quality addiction if we're going to be anywhere near competitive and a massive improvement in fitness, conditioning and our defence

I think the signing of 2/3 top quality players (Lam being one) would turn that side from a 9-10th place side to 5-7th

We were in a similar spot last year when people kept saying we need to make good use of the last couple of quota spots, we were linked with Clune ,Watson, Blore amongst others and ended up with Okunbor and Brown, hopefully we don't end up with two more duds next season

Will never happen as long as you’re got a hole in your aris. The thing with Hull is other than money why would you sign for them?

There is little or no chance. 30+ player would achieve anything in their lifetime and the internal politics at the club is enough to frighten anyone off.

Hull could do to be relegated and start again. This papering over cracks recruitment doesn’t work. Seen it all before.

Hull need a better infrastructure and that is not Pearson and Myler but you have what you have. 10 years to rebuild if you can stay the course??

If we can get a half, Lam or someone of a similar ilk then I can see us getting top 6.

We need some more strike out wide, I'd be amazed if we didn't use a quota player on.

I'd like another middle too, we lack size against the better teams.

The biggest variable is the coach, if he's as good as we hope then play offs shouldn't be beyond us. Look at Peters at Rovers last year, got them top 4 and no one saw that coming plus Rowley at Salford this year. Hopefully Cartwright isn't a dud

We won't get anywhere near anything without major investment in the backroom staff, especially the strength and conditioning, hopefully if we do this along with the hull fc training hub being completed it should put us in a better position than we were at the start of last season.

You can’t really believe top 6 with the team assembled surely even with Matt Johns in his day or Mikey Lewis would get you top 6??

I wonder if our poor strength/ conditioning / physio teams puts players off signing for us, it can't just be bad luck that we end up with what feels like the team with most injuries almost every season.It's a short playing career and maybe it makes players think twice about coming to us.

Definitely need at least 3 more quality signings.

I am OK with our domestic signings as they improve us and not much out there, but we need better out of quota (don't understand Cust, but Cartwright rates him), the last two spots are key for a half and strike centre, I'd look at Hastings if we fail to get Lam.

It's easy to get negative again after displays like yesterday but I think it's important to remember the overall standard in SL is as low as it has even been and we've lost a few games by a try or two which could have easily have gone the other way.

Although I have big question marks over signing Abdull even just his kicking game, conversions and game management might have turned a couple of those losses into wins.

I don't think we'll be in the 6 next year but I'd be happy to reach July/August and still be in the running.

It's no coincidence that when we were winning things and had a really good team in 16/17 we had very few injuries and a full backroom team and now since covid we've massively had to cut back we seem to be in double figures nearly every week with absentees it needs addressing now we've got some money behind us. I don't blame Pearson if the moneys not there there's nothing he can do and him cutting back so much probably saved the club from doing a Bradford or worse.

Hopefully now players can see we're spending again we'll get the resources in place to get back to the upper end of the table and back in finals which makes recruitment easier.

You also increase the risk signing injured players, the club knew Trueman had big injuries and still went ahead (though had already signed when he limped off a final time for Cas) Sutcliffe also looks somewhat fragile as does Ashworth.

Exactly doesn't take alot to catch the teams who will finish 5th to 8th. Even with the current set up, we have beaten Wigan, come close to beating Salford and Warrington. Small improvements on and off the field can really swing things around.

As it stands we should be aiming to finish around 8th and hopefully slightly higher if we sign 2/3 more top (SL) level players.