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| .... maybe Pritchard + Westerman with the £175k marquee cap limit for Pritchard fitted under the cap.
Now Westerman has gone, the £175k may not be needed (at the moment) so we're currently at full cap.
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| The full question and answer wasJS[/i
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Quite an ambiguous statement from Pearson, but always better to post the full thing.
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| I understand we are leaving a sum aside as well for the loan market should we need too. We would of used it last yr only we didn't leave anything spare to do so
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| Still don't quite understand how we can be at full cap when we have lost westerman.
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| Quote: Faithful One "Still don't quite understand how we can be at full cap when we have lost westerman.'"
Because we were breaking the cap with him on board and it was always the intention to release/sell him?
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| Quote: Smiggs "Because we were breaking the cap with him on board and it was always the intention to release/sell him?'"
But the cap is live though, isn't it?
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| Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "But the cap is live though, isn't it?'"
Ok then we would be in a position were we would be breaking it when the overseas players signed were on contract and being paid. We didn't actually break it as Westerman was released before that point
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| Quote: Smiggs "Ok then we would be in a position were we would be breaking it when the overseas players signed were on contract and being paid. We didn't actually break it as Westerman was released before that point'"
Possibly, I'm not sure. I had assumed that the cap being live means that the future cap spend is monitored too, in this instance 2016, but maybe not.
It could be that the 2016 cap is only 'live' and monitored from say the 1st of November, due to the player registrations for that upcoming season, and the club knowingly went over the cap momentarily for 2016, knowing a player could be released/sold/de-registered in time.
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| .... I'm pretty sure the cap year for 2016 starts tomorrow on the 1st December.
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| It is your forum tonight, innit?
Here's a polite and non-partisan cap-related question, if anybody fancies asking it:
'Adam, you're quoted in today's HDM as saying 'It's an expensive squad we've built'. Are Hull FC spending more on player wages than in previous years? Do Hull FC, or other clubs, manage the cap by temporarily de-registering players?'
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| Quote: ccs ".... I'm pretty sure the cap year for 2016 starts tomorrow on the 1st December.'"
The cap is live, so there is no cap year as such.
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| Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "Possibly, I'm not sure. I had assumed that the cap being live means that the future cap spend is monitored too, in this instance 2016, but maybe not.
It could be that the 2016 cap is only 'live' and monitored from say the 1st of November, due to the player registrations for that upcoming season, and the club knowingly went over the cap momentarily for 2016, knowing a player could be released/sold/de-registered in time.'"
I think this is right. Westerman was always going imo and we knew.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "The cap is live, so there is no cap year as such.'" I wonder why the RFL salary cap regulations on their website, which refers to the cap being "live",
also has the phrase "Salary Cap Year" mentioned more than 100 times?
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| Quote: ccs "I wonder why the RFL salary cap regulations on their website, which refers to the cap being "live",
also has the phrase "Salary Cap Year" mentioned more than 100 times?'"
My guess is that it means that at any given time what club is spending on the wages of the top 25 registered earners, [iextrapolated over a year[/i, does no exceed the cap. That year starts whenever the calculation is made, and those calculations are ongoing throughout the calendar year.
The cap needs to be expressed as money/time, and a year is sensible unit. It could be the cap month, week or even minute. The cap limit is about £3.53 per minute; same thing, just expressed differently and not so easy to understand.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "My guess is that it means that at any given time what club is spending on the wages of the top 25 registered earners, [iextrapolated over a year[/i, does no exceed the cap. That year starts whenever the calculation is made, and those calculations are ongoing throughout the calendar year.
The cap needs to be expressed as money/time, and a year is sensible unit. It could be the cap month, week or even minute. The cap limit is about £3.53 per minute; same thing, just expressed differently and not so easy to understand.'"
I think the year thing is simply to do with when contracts of players start. We may have signed Pritchard whenever but clearly was not suddenly on the cap at that point.
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