Not an easy scenario for fans. All you can do is keep the faith and keep supporting your club. All clubs go through periods like this… even the so called mighty…

It’s always the Coach
Always !!!

AP is also the worst man manager I’ve witnessed. He can’t control or motivate his coaches and just accepts the rubbish they serve up.

AP needs to completely change how he is and hire a world class coach

Rowley at Salford shows just what you can do
Smith is clearly unable to motivate his players nor install any form of discipline.

This gets worse from here mark my words
Oooh it gonna get a lot worse

I told a mate we would lose last night
I knew it
We don’t know how to win and play with no structure at all
It’s all basics

STOP praising effort as that’s a given in Rugby
Saying a team tried hard is such a boring thing to say - yet we haven’t even tried hard from the kick off in this match

Yep Smith needs to do the honourable thing and call it a day

Don’t hang around to be sacked Tony
Do the right thing here

We haven’t even played Saints Wigan or Salford yet have we ?

9 game barometer isn’t even needed

Our 18s got smashed at Wire this week and it was all due to discipline

Seems it runs through the club

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ds-9170823 I just don't really believe any of this anymore... stick with us, we'll fix it, we want to make it right, we're determined... it's all just clichés, defence should've been far better than it is, that comes from pre seasons,.fitness needs to be better, attack needs to be better...lane said earlier in the week they've learnt lessons from Catalan and they'll get it right this weekend, then they serve that up today, but don't worry...theyll learn. As for keeping turning up to the games, why should I Tony? I went to Catalans last week but can't see myself going again for a long time, can't justify giving up a day of my weekend, a round trip from Leeds and spending £40-50 to see absolute rubbish, there's better and more enjoyable uses of my time currently

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ds-9170823 I just don't really believe any of this anymore... stick with us, we'll fix it, we want to make it right, we're determined... it's all just clichés, defence should've been far better than it is, that comes from pre seasons,.fitness needs to be better, attack needs to be better...lane said earlier in the week they've learnt lessons from Catalan and they'll get it right this weekend, then they serve that up today, but don't worry...theyll learn. As for keeping turning up to the games, why should I Tony? I went to Catalans last week but can't see myself going again for a long time, can't justify giving up a day of my weekend, a round trip from Leeds and spending £40-50 to see absolute rubbish, there's better and more enjoyable uses of my time currently

Todays shambolic effort/performance has absolutely nothing at all to do with quality or lack of in the 17 that played today but everything to do with p15s poor preparation, coaching and attitude.

There is simply no excuse as to why a team of paid professionals can not even grasp the fundamental basics of rugby league.
As for Smith post match comments they just rub further salt into what is now an infected open wound.
Quite how Pearson goes about repairing the damage done today I don’t know but I feel without doubt keeping Smith & Gene employed beyond this weekend will be the death if the club and the last straw for most fans who have quite simply had enough of been taken for mugs and patience has finally run out after 6 years of poor management, leadership and performances .

The only move Pearson can make is the removal of both Smith & Gene and follow that up by removing Clarke from anything team/recruitment related.

After sitting and watching that and being totally embarrassed..... again!!! Hers my own personal take on it. I have to say firstly that its not Smiths fault completely but I would be quite happy if he were to go because it simply isn't working. But who honestly can ever make it work.

It didn't work with Gentle (Players got rid of him) it didn't really work for Radford (Because a small group of senior players in 2016 got the rest by the scruff of the neck, otherwise it was average at best) Last did OK (just because he was one of the lads the players knew he was a short term fix and in the end they did for him) Hodgson was a sentimental cheap fix appointment (and allowed the malaise to continue whilst having no idea at all of how to stop it) and so we come to Smith (an accomplished coach who had been pretty successful at every club he has coached) but he's obviously baffled by it all.

So what is the common denominator? I'm afraid it has to be the malaise, Cancer, culture or whatever you want to call it that runs through our club.

It's been around for years in fact even Johnny Kear referred to it about his latter days at the club in his book. There is something at our club amongst the playing group, that festers and continues whoever is in charge. I don't know what it is, but it's been around for years . Every recent season we have had massive scores put on us, capitulated at about round 15 and faded away without trace and yet no one can do anything about it. Why do we think that really committed players like Swift and Sneyd left? Wanting to relocate????? I think they were as fed up with it as we all are. Pearson too has to take some responsibility because he hasn't replaced quality players like for like never mind improved on them and the quality has down down and down. but he inherited the culture and nothing really has changed. Back in the bad old days of the 70's at the boulevard we would go off at half time 20 or 30 points down to applause because we recognised we were not good enough but every player was trying his heart out for us lot stood on the terrace. Some of this lot are taking the p*ss I'm afraid.


What is the solution, well I doubt even the England Coach can sort it, because no one else has been able to. And who would want the poison chalice that is Hull FC? There is something radically wrong at our club something spookily inherent in generation after generation of players and perhaps those who are up themselves need the short sharp shock of fans walking away from the club because the only thing that is working at Hull FC at present is the strength dedication and love of the supporters. All I can say is that after today's thorough humiliation against a team without a win and hindered by their own injuries, thank goodness there is no relegation this year, perhaps the players know that fact as well?? . So today an absolute shambles but next week a spirited performance and perhaps another in the Derby before the status Quo returns again as it always does.

I’ll try keep a straight face but we all told you so! Smith is so far out of touch and Gene is poison in any club. Pearson won’t go as I understand he takes a wage from the club as his only source of income. Pearson said Smith would be his last ever coach appointment so if he has any credibility and sacks Smith Pearson goes with him and that’s a big problem. I am baffled why they signed the players they have, they are simply not good enough and luckily Cas are as bad as you and London where arguably better but unlucky

The squad we've assembled is easily bottom 4, I don't think any other coach could do much better. AP has cut corners and now paying the price for doing so.

I don't doubt that and most people on here accept we are a bottom 4 team and with the squad we have defeat most weeks is inevitable. What is not acceptable is the manner of the defeats and today is a prime example. Smith should go but he's only part of the problem. The whole structure of the club needs to be overhauled.

The squad looks the poorest on paper I’ve seen at your great club. That is really bizarre…

Agree, it's the manner of the defeats, had we lost an entertaining game today by say 2 tries or less i'd say 'ok we're in transition, brighter days are ahead' but there wasn't a single positive in any aspect.

I don't think our problems are really Smith's doing. Far from it. I think he's been dealt a tough hand. However, I think the job is too big for him. Yes he's got experience, yes he's used to dealing with pressure, but this is different. We need to overhaul the club from top to bottom, and I just don't believe he's got the stomach for that at this stage in his career. We need someone young and driven with fresh ideas. Who that would be I'm not sure, but there are plenty of good assistants out there waiting for their chance. I don't mind us losing every week if I can see some sort of long term plan and some green shoots of progress. At the minute we are going absolutely nowhere.

I think we are definitely struggling financially post covid and are trying to cut our cloth. How much we are struggling is up for debate, and opinions are varied, but we certainly do seem to be badly in need of some investment. Our problems are compounded when you consider that a big chunk of our cap is tied up in absolute dead wood. Just Tuimavave and Houghton's salaries alone must surely be enough to bring in 4 or 5 useful players, and neither of them are good enough anymore. They aren't the only ones. The whole squad needs ripping up and starting again tbh. Of the current squad of 40 ish there would only be about 10 that I'd be sad to see go, and most of those are kids fresh from the academy.