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| Quote Geoff Tipps="Geoff Tipps"Unbelievable!!! .....Talk about forcing young local and national talent out of the game! .......Josh got a lifeline, and now he is leading the table in the NRL Dally M awards ......Once again ......Unbelievable!!!'"
What are you talking about?
Forcing young players out of the game, by playing them in the reserves?
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."What are you talking about?
Forcing young players out of the game, by playing them in the reserves?'"
A reserve grade that his beloved Hull KR are hoping to run next year. Unless they get relegated.
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| Nope ......I'm talking about our young and local talent been asked to take a wage decrease to accommodate the "big stars" from the NRL.
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| Quote Geoff Tipps="Geoff Tipps"Unbelievable!!! .....Talk about forcing young local and national talent out of the game! .......Josh got a lifeline, and now he is leading the table in the NRL Dally M awards ......Once again ......Unbelievable!!!'"
We wanted to keep Hodgson, but there's something called that salary cap.
As for young talent, our FC supporting prop forward seems to be doing okay.
How many Dobbins products have you actually been able to keep hold of?
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| Quote Geoff Tipps="Geoff Tipps"Nope ......I'm talking about our young and local talent been asked to take a wage decrease to accommodate the "big stars" from the NRL.'"
It's called a fair pay structure. Something we haven't had for a few years and we are still trying to put right.
How much are Campese and Kelly on again?.
Don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.
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| Hoops is right and what a load of tripe there is in this thread! The Club has for almost three years been working at putting in place a banding system for wages which mirrors almost exactly what Leeds have operated for years. Players at different levels of development and experience are banded together which means its more equitable and you don't have players constantly looking over their shoulder at what others are on.
That banding exists at the top as well as at the bottom (and if you like admittance level). If you speak to employees they will tell you its a lot fairer, (Gareth Ellis even took a cut in wages recently) However it means that unlike the way some clubs operate you can't in desperation just pluck salary offers out of the air when it suits you, nor can you suddenly promote an unproved junior coming out of the academy onto a wage way above his banding within the organisation.
On the plus side however it does mean that we can employ more players and have a bigger squad unlike some clubs who have spent so much on two or three salary's they can't make anymore signings when injuries bite. Some scoffed at the size of our squad and our introduction of an Under 23's team this season. They ain't scoffing now as Mr Peacocks comments in todays Mail prove!
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| Seems peacock has finally woken up to the need for an U23's but I'm not sure their plan of filling it with local amateurs is really the way to go
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| Isn't it what scouts should be doing anyway spotting local talent? They asked my lad & a two others to go down just before the academy merger, we won national cups all hull finals Yorkshire cup finals & they never came & watched our games, yet we play our home games at st Richards, FC scouts at everyone of our home games, we should have never have merged the academies, as we was doing ok anyway, kr will benefit more then us. Imo.
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| Structured/tiered wage structure obviously works in RL but it helps hugely when your club has a (recent) history of success. Everybody has to buy into the principle with the goal of success and all that that brings, monetary and otherwise.
x salary being offered to talented upcoming players on a balanced structure where players of similar exp etc are being paid pretty much the same could mean some feeling they are undervalued and they are worth more.
The amounts are clearly not huge so if there is a draw of more elsewhere combined with a perceived increased  chance to play first team rugby and in certain individuals case a drop in salary that obviously can effect a young lads decision.
If you
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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"Structured/tiered wage structure obviously works in RL but it helps hugely when your club has a (recent) history of success. Everybody has to buy into the principle with the goal of success and all that that brings, monetary and otherwise.
x salary being offered to talented upcoming players on a balanced structure where players of similar exp etc are being paid pretty much the same could mean some feeling they are undervalued and they are worth more.
The amounts are clearly not huge so if there is a draw of more elsewhere combined with a perceived increased  chance to play first team rugby and in certain individuals case a drop in salary that obviously can effect a young lads decision.
If you'"
If arundel was still here this would of been a 120 k year for him
Miller would STILL be 125k
Think macdonnell would of been finished his 140k by now.
But there is a MASSIVE reason for a tiered system
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| Quote airliebird,runninglate!="airliebird,runninglate!"If arundel was still here this would of been a 120 k year for him
Miller would STILL be 125k
Think macdonnell would of been finished his 140k by now.
But there is a MASSIVE reason for a tiered system'"
A lot of the cap on very average players. Not to mention quota places.
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| Quote al283="al283"Where are the fixtures published ? would definitely wander to Brantingham Park to watch but struggle to find when games on.'"
I think they are there next Sat 14th v Halifax iirc, 2pm
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